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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 11 17:17:59 2012, in response to Re: Misdirection?, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 11 00:44:50 2012.Well the two R6 paths didn't even cross.
What goes on in Europe does not matter. There would have to be significant dwell time in NYPS for any run-thru of NJT & LIRR to maintain a reasonable OTP. Any normal person can change trains and buy a ticket in 5 - 10 minutes. NJT is not a punctual operation. LIRR has dovetailing in Jamaica, and a lot of single-track branches, and also struggles to keep up with Metro North. All it takes is for one bridge to go up on the NJCL and the LIRR would be screwed up for hours.
I have read articles where passengers said the R#'s were confusing, since they still had to keep track of whether it was for the RDG or Pennsy side. So the visitor headed to Media could have instead gone to West Trenton if all they went by was R3. You still need to know the destination. I don't see any other multi-branch commuter railroad in New York or Chicago resorting to route numbers, but they do color code. But people will always get on the wrong train regardless of the signage and announcements, which I think are quite good.
They could have use double digits for one side, and had trains change numbers as it entered Philly. But it made no sense to mark a train from West Trenton, the R3 line, as R1, which is where they headed on weekends anyway. So what is the point of calling a line R3 if the train is marked for the ultimate destination on the other side ? The rigid route pairings never worked.
In New York, there is not 3 stations, but one, so there is no distribution effect across the CBD like in Philly.
Vuchic simply says "long Island" , like it is a homogenous place. The fact is, you are going to a specific locale, and with 7 NJT branches and 10 LIRR branches, the odds of satisfying any New Jersey/Long Island station pair for anyone's thru travel is practically zero, so you will wind up changing somewhere, whether it be Newark, NYPS, Jamaica, Hicksville.
I fail to see how a NJT-LIRR thru service would have made his trip planning any easier.
Vuchic is a all talk and all theory. Put him in a schedule planning office to deal with all the constraints of single-track branches, dove-tailing trains, making connections, avoiding locals close behind expresses, and he would quickly become Peter Principled.
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