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Re: 3 Congressmen urge Metra not to OK Englewood Flyover contract due to lack of minorities

Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon May 14 22:28:05 2012, in response to Re: 3 congressmen urge Metra not to OK Englewood Flyover contract due to lack of minorities, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 22:02:27 2012.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 22:02:27 2012, in response to Re: 3 congressmen urge Metra not to OK Englewood Flyover contract due to lack of minorities, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon May 14 21:51:29 2012.

All I did was state facts about the population dispersion in and around the Englewood Crossover

No, you stated nothing.


So the following stated "nothing" to you.

Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon May 14 13:47:24 2012, in response to Re: 3 congressmen urge Metra not to OK Englewood Flyover contract due to lack of minorities, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 12 21:23:29 2012.

Evidently while Olog-hai is so vocal on everything else including stupid ideas like running the North Shore on the Chicago 'L' again, not to mention the Aurora & Elgin, he can't respond to this simple question. The Black Panther issue is what, 40 years old, yet Olog-hai keeps dredging it up. Of course the NS and the A&E are 40 years old too so maybe Olog-hai just lives his life in the past. But there are some facts that maybe need to be more widely known and by presenting them I am not asking for a debate..just asking that you keep 'em in mind.

First, Chicago is still the most racially segregated city, 90 percent of the population live in areas that are racially identifiable, Black, white, or hispanic and the Englewood Crossover is within a mostly Black area for a radius of four miles in all directions and going straight south, over twenty miles to the south suburbs beyond Interstate 80-294.

On another forum a poster stated that a passenger railroad running through a community should be a community strength, wrong in this case as neither Metra route that will use the crossover serves Englewood. The Rock Island District stopped four miles back at 87th & Halsted (Gresham) and the to-be-relocated Southwest Service hadn't stopped for six miles back 79th & Kedzie (Wrightwood). Neither will stop until the Loop, unless there is a baseball game at 35th Sox Park. True there is a CTA Red line stop nearby.

It is reported elsewhere that the major contractor met the minority participation by granting 25 percent to Hispanics and one percent to Blacks and if that is true, the three Representatives have a job to do to insure more parity in the future. Admittedly, this debate is not one for this forum.


Again, is there anything in the above paragraphs that is wrong, in error. The man is a Congressman of a district 2000 miles away from you...I believe you live on the West Coast...and has been in that position for twenty years. Same question to Olog-hai, what have you accomplished in the last twenty years?

Tell us, just what did the Black Panthers do to Olog-hai, or to Olog-hai's family?

That's like saying "what did the Nazis ever do to Olog-hai or to his family" or "what did the communists do" et cetera. Ever heard the saying "as a man thinks in his heart, so is he"? Does something have to affect you personally and acutely in order to stand against it, or do you have to wait until things are too late?


It is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, your argument has no relevance. Answer the question or shut up. What has the Black Panthers ever done to Olog-hai or his family that makes Olog-hai attack the integrity of a twenty year Congressman. Answer. why do you avoid?

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