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Re: Best Article I've Read on Reasons to Reactivate the Rockaway Beach Line

Posted by J trainloco on Tue May 8 18:57:35 2012, in response to Re: Best Article I've Read on Reasons to Reactivate the Rockaway Beach Line, posted by randyo on Tue May 8 15:13:35 2012.

Another error is the timeline between the LIRR abandonment of the branch and the city takeover. At the moment,I'm not sure of the exact year but I believe it was around 1952 which,by the way was before the creation of the NYCTA.If the takeover was in 1955 as the report indicated,there would not have been sufficient time for the city to remove the remains of the burned out LIRR trestle,create the landfill and build the completely new bridges in time for the IND opening of the Rockaway Line in the summer of 1956. Also,the photo of the A train crossing over the LIRR which supposedly dates from 1948 is definitely misdated since the A train did not start operating to Lefferts until 1956 and even if one could infer that the R-10 train in the photo was one of the ones assigned to the BMT (which didn't happen until the early 1950s),that would be highly unlikely since in 1948 when the R-10s were brand new they would have still shown the 2 tone grey paint scheme which would still be visible in a B/W photo and not the dark grey steel dust color evident in the photo. Additionally,before the IND connection was built,the only access to the Liberty Av portion of the Fulton el would nave been over the unrebuilt section of the el between Penna Av and Crescent St which would not have been able to sustain the weight of R-10s anyhow.

So putting two and two together from your post:

-Lefferts service didn't start until 1956.
-LIRR service ended in 1952.

So when/where was the photo taken?


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