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Re: MTA going to great lengths in stopping subway scammers...from 18 mins to 1 hour

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 7 21:17:54 2012, in response to Re: MTA going to great lengths in stopping subway scammers...from 18 mins to 1 hour, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 7 20:29:51 2012.

It's more a terrible idea for volume. People generally arrive at the station to board at more spaced out intervals than when a train arrives. -Example 1: The 3-4 turnstiles at most queens stations will get swamped when an afternoon rush hour train arrives. People simply use the emergency gate to exit, defeating the purpose.
-Example 2: Imagine rush hour at Herald Square. Three trains just arrived on the 6th ave line, and everyone's running upstairs to walk to Penn Station or PATH so they're all using the 32nd st mezzanine, at the same time local office workers are trying to get in. Someone will push open the emergency exit gates and people will use it for both directions, and they will be able to get away with it since their home station is an "example 1". The sheer number of exasperated people doing it would make enforcement virtually impossible.

If you want to institute a system like that in NYC it needs to be like Japan (which has swipe/tap in/out even at the busiest stations):
-Mainly Tap Cards
-The turnstiles DC/Boston style but are open at all times. They will close on you and sound an alarm if you attempt to go through without presenting a proper fare instrument.


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