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Re: Best Article I've Read on Reasons to Reactivate the Rockaway Beach Line

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri May 4 21:18:20 2012, in response to Re: Best Article I've Read on Reasons to Reactivate the Rockaway Beach Line, posted by randyo on Fri May 4 14:42:24 2012.

I'm not saying that we need a transit czar who would spend money just for the sake of spending it

I suspect you could get away with more if we could build at say $200M to $300M per mile*, but New York's construction industry is rent seeking, we design for 600 ft stations while our contemporaries in Europe use 300 to 500 ft platforms, we use dual tube construction in lieu of single tube for our bores, and we have far stricter fire regs than the rest of the world. Plus, since each line being built is seen as an extension of the network, it's difficult to build isolated branches connected with single track sections, so you're left to use existing bellmouths and other provisions which may not be ideal, or you're stuck trying to cram a connection in like 63rd Street.

Once you solve the money issues, then you're left with the whiny NIMBY types, but I would argue that the high costs scare off everybody and saps the energy to fight off the NIMBYs.

*For sampling purposes, Montreal's 2007 Laval extension cost $230M per mile or so for three new stations, an additional platform at one station, with all ROW being underground and tunneled.


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