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Re: Best Article I've Read on Reasons to Reactivate the Rockaway Beach Line

Posted by andy on Wed May 2 23:29:34 2012, in response to Re: Best Article I've Read on Reasons to Reactivate the Rockaway Beach Line, posted by John of the Bronx on Wed May 2 22:20:22 2012.

My source for the origins of the name White Pot come from the 1939 classic guide to NYC, The WPA Guide to New York City. On page 581 it is noted that the name White Pot came from the legend that Indians sold the property that became today's Forest Hills for three white pots. Whether or not that story is true, or the Kew Gardens Civic Association story is true, is irrelevant. The fact is that the site of the LIRR's old White Pot Junction is in Forest Hills or Rego Park, but not Kew Gardens.

With regard to the unused bellmouth north of 63rd Drive Station, in December 1933 The New York Times reported that the LIRR and NYC Board of Transportation were close to an agreement under which the new IND subway would be connected to the LIRR Rockaway Line at that location, enabling the IND to take over the LIRR service to and from Rockaway. Problem was, the following month a new mayor (LaGuardia) came to power and his administration had higher priorities than extending the IND to Rockaway using the LIRR tracks.

The bellmouths are still there today, of course. They connect to both local tracks only. So if the connection were built today some R or M trains that now end at 71/Continental Ave. could run all the way to Rockaway. Think about it - an R train from Bay Ridge to Far Rockaway, or an M train from Metropolitan Avenue to Rockaway Park. The M, if that routing ever came to be, would resemble a pretzel.


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