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Re: SEPTA to spend $100 million on PTC (unfunded federal mandate); other projects take hit

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Mar 5 22:13:37 2012, in response to Re: SEPTA to spend $100 million on PTC (unfunded federal mandate); other projects take hit, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Mar 5 11:17:29 2012.

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Tell me the last time you got a transit ride that didn't suck.

If I wanted to be an absurdist, July 2010 in Germany, but in reality, in the past six months, I've had non-sucky rides on NYCTA, Tri-Met, SoundTransit/KC Metro, and TransLink. Coincidentally, the only sucky ride within that six month period was the slug-like and late New Jersey Transit train leaving Newark Airport.

lower cost infrastructure

How much is ESA again? How much was that half-assed terminal in a cave under 34th Street? Of course, the smart thing would have been to build a two track terminal, but that level of service is only expected from rapid transit, so the commuter rail agencies "need" six tracks to do what others do with two tracks.

Railroads are not transit.

If you keep thinking like that, we'll never get a full-fleshed out and easy to use transit network that encourages ridership and transit oriented development through out our metropolitan areas. The gold-plating that people complain about on BART only exists because it's nearly impossible to get railroads to mature and become more transit like on the cheap. Thus the only alternative is to chase the railroad away and go Stadtbahn or build an imitation S-Bahn over it as we did in San Francisco.

Either way PTC will degrade service,

FWIW, the Swiss have managed to implement 120 second headways at 200 km/h with recent ECTS Level II installations on mixed use line...

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