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Re: Lawmakers: southern Queens commuters need a new railway more than the QueensWay

Posted by randyo on Tue Feb 14 14:48:59 2012, in response to Re: Lawmakers: southern Queens commuters need a new railway more than the QueensWay, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Feb 14 13:29:14 2012.

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The Rockaway tracks are the ones with the "F" designation. The problem now arises due to the fact that trains coming from the existing IND Rockaway connection are SOUTHBOUND and are numbered as such whereas tracks coming from Qns Blvd would be NORTHBOUND tracks and would have to reflect the logic of the IND track numbering system. The new connection from Qns Blvd would probably have to have a new letter designation with a separate chaining system until somewhere around Liberty Jct when the track designations would change. That is not really that difficult since a similar change takes place at the Broad St end Of Chambers St on the Nassau St Line. under the original BMT standard, trains passing through Brooklyn enroute to Manhattan were NORTHBOUND regardless of their point of origin thus Jamaica and Myrtle/Chambers trains were always northbound towards Chambers and Broad and Southbound towards jamaica and Met. When the Nassau St extension was added to the original Centre St subway in the 1930s, the tracks between Chambers and the Nassau Cut were Southern Div tracks and were SOUTHBOUND from that point. J2 connected to R1 at the end of Chambers St. When the Jamaica and later the Myrtle were through routed into the Southern Div, their designations were made southbound towards Stillwell and northbound towards Jamaica or Met to eliminate confusion. K trains running in the same physical direction, however were still northbound towards 57/6. With the rerouting of the M to Qns Blvd, that service has been restored to being Northbound away from Met and southbound towards Met, however I don't believe the J line designation has been changed back yet although based on the track numbering system in place it should be. That way there will be no confusion as there is now with northbound M service alternating with southbound J service with both operating in the same physical direction on the same tracks. Connecting Qns Blvd to Rockaway will present a similar problem since northbound trains coming from Qns Blvd would be operating alternately with southbound trains coming off Fulton St tending to cause confusion.

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