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Re: NY Senate Urges MTA To Reject Proposal To cut LIRR service into Penn Station

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Feb 10 21:45:59 2012, in response to Re: NY Senate Urges MTA To Reject Proposal To cut LIRR service into Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 10 20:58:35 2012.

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If the goal is to get MNCR into Penn Station or thereabouts,which is cheaper: cutting whole new terminals out of bedrock,or buying some extra locomotives of a known design?

Neither,since neither will get any Metro-North trains into NYP.

Burrowing in bedrock is exactly what LIRR is doing to get trains into GCT, and essentially what ARC would've done with NJT.

And frankly,if there were room,if it turns out that the ALP-45DPs work OK,it'd be a better thing to use those, since there wouldn't be any issues vis-à-vis push-pull operation (the wires don't have any gaps). This is from the Hudson Line,of course.

So instead of buying a cheaper 3rd rail DM, they should buy the more expensive DP? How many of these things you wanna buy? At this expense, you might as well look into electrifying the west side line and operating EMUs.

The only real practical way to do it from the New Haven side is to use ALP-44s with Shoreliners.

Maybe, if they jointly operate it with NJT. Is NJT even using its ALP-44s anymore? If not... M8's, c'mon down!!

And the long run. GCT still has 67 tracks for Metro-North. NYP has 21 tracks and is only eight blocks further south. There's no need for Metro-North to throw a wrench into the system.

Everytime you regurgitate this, i'm going to point out the folly of your argument: while GCT is a massive terminal, the Park Ave viaduct doesn't have much additional room for more trains. Therefore, the best way to add service is to use the existing, under-utilized tracks that lead to NYP.

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