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Re: MTA overnight fixes in 2012 will shut down Manhattan subway lines for up to 4 days in a row |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Nov 12 14:52:44 2011, in response to Re: MTA overnight fixes in 2012 will shut down Manhattan subway lines for up to 4 days in a row, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Nov 12 11:46:57 2011. Purely thinking out loud:Suppose the IND Eighth Avenue line - from 42nd Street to West 4th Street was closed from 10pm to 5am on the four weeknight's plan. I could imagine A-trains sent down the D-line to West 4th Street, switched to the local tracks, for a ride down Spring Street and into Brooklyn. With E-train diverted down Sixth Avenue station. The only problem that I see - is that the 42nd Street-Eighth Avenue station does not really have a way to turn back trains north-bound, unless the 34th Street station is used - which involves the layup tracks north of 23rd Street. Suppose the IRT Seventh Avenue line - from 42nd Street to Chambers Street was closed from 10pm to 5am on the four weeknight's plan. I could imagine #2 and #3 trains terminated and relayed just south of the 42nd Street station, or even at the 34th Street center platform. Unless the 34th Street platform is used or #1 trains skip some local stations - I don't see how south-bound #1 trains will be terminated at 42nd Street. I could see the Chambers Street station as a terminate and relay point for the #2 and #3 from Brooklyn, and possibly a bus substitution for #1 riders to/from South Ferry, or a shuttle train. Suppose the BMT Manhattan Broadway line from 42nd Street to City Hall or Canal Street was closed from 10pm to 5am on the four weeknight's plan. This is the line that I have most difficulty imagining the operations. Except for 57th Street, 34th Street or the Canal Street area - this line really does not have much capability to return trains back to where they came from. For example - N-trains to/from Astoria could be turned at 42nd Street but that would have to use the express tracks skipping 49th Street. I could see R-trains diverted to Sixth Avenue during this period, and traveling by the D-train route to resume service in Brooklyn. I could see Q-trains from Brighton traveling through lower Manhattan to Canal Street but that would mean a really interesting relay operation at that station to return Q-trains to Brooklyn. Yes, the TA could send such Q-trains via the J-line to Essex Street - discharging riders at Canal Street - but I doubt that would happen. Suppose the Lexington Avenue line was closed from 10am to 5am on the four weeknight's plan from 42nd Street to Brooklyn Bridge. This is the easiest one to imagine. Both #4, #5 and #6 trains from the Bronx could terminate and relay on the both tracks at the uptown plaform at the Grand Central Station. Yes that is easy to imagine. Riders could be sent by the Shuttle train to the westside #2 or #3 running full-time to/from Brooklyn. Plus there are other transfers at 51-53rd Streets, and at 59th Street. Previous #4 G.O.'s have used #4 trains running as a shuttle between the Brooklyn Bridge station and the Brooklyn IRT lines. So yes - it is do-able. Just my thoughts. Mike |
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