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Re: Re-Open LIRR 'White Pot Junction

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Oct 5 09:16:50 2011, in response to Re: Re-Open LIRR 'White Pot Junction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:36:51 2011.

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Forest on the M has come of age and is now a MIDTOWN line so that argument is out the window that I made in 2008. Now the M would go to the same place an extended Rockaway line route would, just from the opposite direction. This is a toughy now. I would have to think about this one.

Well, then I should add up the 2010 version of those numbers.

I think Atlantic Ave would be busier than 104th, but not by much.

Okay, I'll use the number for 111th for that one.

Well, I still don't know Whitlock that well.

And it was closed for much of 2010, so I'll pick another comparison, although I think this one is a bit of an overestimate: 121st Street on the (J)(Z). The street pattern is a bit cut up by railroads, there is a good mix of housing types, but the Queens IND Express is rather too close.

So here goes:

66th Avenue - Fleet Street 663,832
Metropolitan Avenue 1,124,754
Myrtle Avenue 398,834
Jamaica Avenue 760,419
Atlantic Avenue 781,872
101st Avenue 760,419
Liberty Avenue - Rockaway Blvd 1,045,413
TOTAL 5,535,543

Interestingly, it's quite a bit more: all the stations I've used as comparisons are doing relatively well. But it still only lifts it to being two-and-a-half Crosstown stations in Greenpoint, rather than two. So I still don't think these are the sorts of numbers where full-length trains and through service to Manhattan are particularly realistic.

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