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Re: Re-Open LIRR 'White Pot Junction

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:36:18 2011, in response to Re: Re-Open LIRR 'White Pot Junction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 9 11:42:00 2008.

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I take back some of my 2008 rebutles. Funny, when I read your post in the other thread, I sort of agreed with it, unlike apparently when I responded in 2008, lol.
Let's re-evaluate my position of 2008... :)
Forgive me if I sound like I am talking to myself, as I am really speaking to James as I speak here....

66th Avenue - Fleet Street = Whitlock Avenue (Pelham)

I can't comment don't know those areas.

Well, I still don't know Whitlock that well.

Metropolitan Avenue = Metropolitan Avenue (Myrtle)

Absolutely not, Metropolitan Ave in middle Village is in the middle of no where. People can only either walk or take the bus to that location, you can't even park anywhere near there if you wanted to. You have a hard time even dropping off people in front, as it's a traffic lane in front of the place (very congested traffic wise), and you can't just stop there.

While Metro on the M is just as, stated above, at least it even has the traffic from Christ the King there, Metro Mall, etc, which Metro on the Rock would not have. It has the same Metro Ave bus, but and it's near a cemetery on one side, and some shopping like Trader Joes, Home Depot, Sports Authority, Staples, Michaels, etc there, somewhat similar to having Metro Mall. Good comparison.

Myrtle Avenue = Bushwick Avenue / Aberdeen Street (14-Canarsie)

Absolutely not, Bushwick-Aberdeen is even more desolate than Metropolitan on the M.

No it's not. Myrtle on the Rockaway would be about as desolate as Bushwick Ave on the L.

Jamaica Avenue = 104 Street (Jamaica)

Perhaps.

Yes. It's in the same general location. Duh.

Atlantic Avenue = 104 Street (Jamaica)

Perhaps, but 104th St is less density I believe.

I think Atlantic Ave would be busier than 104th, but not by much.

101st Avenue = 104 Street (Jamaica)

Perhaps, but 104 St is less density I believe.

101 is somewhat similar.

Liberty Avenue - Rockaway Blvd = Forest Avenue (Myrtle)

I am very familiar with Forest on the M. I am not as familiar with Liberty Ave there, however, having lived near Forest on the M (which was once my home station), I often walked to Myrtle and Wyckoff as the M isn't a convenient line if you need most locations in Manhattan. So the L takes away a lot of the M's potential ridership. The M isn't as desirable because of where it goes in Manhattan. Liberty would have good Midtown access, and you don't have an alternative route like you do not far from Forest Ave.

Forest on the M has come of age and is now a MIDTOWN line so that argument is out the window that I made in 2008. Now the M would go to the same place an extended Rockaway line route would, just from the opposite direction. This is a toughy now. I would have to think about this one.


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