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Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 19 16:14:17 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 14:32:00 2012. I wonder why Zimmerman wasn't tested for drugs.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 16:24:44 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Fred G on Sat May 19 16:14:17 2012. Probably because he wasn't arrested until several months later.I wouldn't be surprised if drugs or alcohol weren't involved. Following random people around while armed seems like something that someone would do after drinking a six pack or two. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 19 16:34:23 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 16:24:44 2012. Or smoking a joint LOL.I just assumed that he had been tested as SOP for when one shoots someone dead but he wasn't. That Stand Your Ground law seems to be a no questions asked kinda deal. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 16:36:06 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Fred G on Sat May 19 16:34:23 2012. To be fair, until he is charged with a crime he doesn't have to be tested and Trayvon wouldn't have been tested either if it weren't an autopsy. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 19 16:39:18 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 16:36:06 2012. ::slaps forehead:: That's true.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 19 18:32:16 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat May 19 06:37:38 2012. Please, the man was in journalism for 75 years. He was Cronkite's mentor when Walter began in the business. Besides he taught law at Yale and Air Brake operation to major railroads. Why do you feel that its necessary for you to lecture him on the obvious. Do you think he's an ass hole liberal or something? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 19 18:47:39 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 18 22:22:22 2012. He's been arrested. He's awaiting trial. That is justice, in the works.When they let him walk without charges justice failed. As to the death threats, he's a vigilante asshole. Evidenced by his comments about ""they" always get away with it" to the Sanford dispatcher. What should he expect? A fookin medal? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:47:35 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by bingbong on Sat May 19 18:47:39 2012. "They" in reference to the unknown criminals who had been tormenting the poor residents of that neighborhood, and clearly had not been caught. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:51:54 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 14:32:00 2012. Oh, I wasn't aware it was a hands-free call. That makes sense, then. I too have encountered people talking seemingly to themselves whom I thought were crazy. Perhaps we should ban the practice. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:18:57 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:51:54 2012. My understanding was that it was hands free, but I'm not positive. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat May 19 21:27:52 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:51:54 2012. "Perhaps we should ban the practice."Who is "we?" Perhaps we should ban smoking in all of America as well. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat May 19 21:37:50 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu May 17 17:23:20 2012. At least half the kids his age, black or white, rich or poor, have smoked weed. It has nothing to do with this case! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat May 19 21:44:22 2012, in response to Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:14:37 2012. I SEEM TO RECALL YOU STATING THAT YOU SMOKED WEED REGULARLY AS A TEEN HANGIN OUT BY THE WHITEPOT AREA OF QUEENS. |
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Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun May 20 01:30:12 2012, in response to Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 18 13:03:53 2012. I disagree with Dershowitz. As he is not Mark O'Mara (who is Zimmerman's lawyer), he is not privy to all of the details of the case. Plus, Angela Corey is a staunch conservative with a great record in court.I'll trust Corey over Dershowitz 7 days of the week. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun May 20 01:33:31 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 18 18:03:35 2012. Disagree - in something like this, a prosecutor is likely sitting on something that only she and Zimmerman's lawyers know about. Dershowitz has no right to see it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 20 02:49:03 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:51:54 2012. Lol but we went to hands free phones so using a phone while driving would be safer.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 20 03:59:08 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri May 18 19:52:53 2012. Considering that the trial hasn't begun, I'd say you and others are clearly jumping the gun.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 20 04:04:26 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by Fred G on Sun May 20 03:59:08 2012. Shhhhh! Don't be interrupting them when they're "do as I say, not as I do" ... it confuses them. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 04:31:19 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by streetcarman1 on Sat May 19 21:27:52 2012. Sarcasm is lost on you it seems. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 04:40:00 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 18 20:06:21 2012. ????????????????????????????Obama? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 04:41:55 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 19 15:47:22 2012. That's the point of the trial. There are questions of whether it was self defense or not. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 20 04:45:09 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 04:40:00 2012. Yep ... guilty instead of presumed innocent since January of 2009 ... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 05:10:38 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 20 04:45:09 2012. ????????????????????????????????????? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 20 05:16:50 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 05:10:38 2012. Yeah I know ... zizzed over your head. Nevermind ... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 20 09:03:28 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 04:31:19 2012. So is logic, common sense, and a host of other things that separate us from the apes. Raving Ricky is one of "them". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 20 09:04:47 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 20 05:10:38 2012. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 20 09:26:24 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Train Dude on Sun May 20 09:03:28 2012. Who's Raving Ricky?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:47:57 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 20 05:16:50 2012. It didn't ziz anywhere. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 03:53:49 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:47:57 2012. Dewd ... even Train Dude got it ... that puts you 4 under par with Uncle Dan. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 03:55:05 2012, in response to Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 21 03:53:49 2012. I got it in your initial post. I completely disagree, is why the ????. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon May 21 08:47:51 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri May 18 19:45:19 2012. Why are those two states mentioned? DO you have a list of other states?AFAIK, those are the only two states to establish such a limit. Colorado's proposed limit was 5 ng/mL, but it didn't pass. |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 11:56:55 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system, autopsy finds, posted by Fred G on Sat May 19 16:14:17 2012. Among the findings of the Sanford paramedic who examined George Zimmerman is his report that Zimmerman was on Restoril (Tamazepam), which is known to have Ambien-like side effects, wherein those who take the drug end up doing all kinds of things while "partially asleep", according to the manufacturer, who adds that people often have no recollection of those activities upon fully awakening.From an MSNBC report: Zimmerman himself was on a prescription for Tamazepam, according to the paramedic's incident report reproducing his medical records. (Tamazepam is also known as Restoril and is prescribed for anxiety and insomnia.) Since Zimmerman was never tested for alcohol or drugs after the shooting, we'll never know what, besides Restoril, was in his system. It is worth noting that Restoril is an anxiety drug, not exactly the best condition for a person with a GUN to be in... |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 12:16:50 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 11:56:55 2012. Anyone on drugs like that shouldn't have a gun. His license to carry should have been pulled for medical reasons. When he gets over whatever he has, it can be restored upon the filing of a medical report by a doctor that states he is medically/psychologically cleared. This goes for anyone receiving medical treatment that includes mind-altering drugs (which include those sleep aids with side effects such as unrecallable behavior).It should be national law. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon May 21 12:22:13 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 11:56:55 2012. I dont follow What do you mean by he wasn't tested but the drugs were in his system? Did he report to the paramedics that he takes that drug routinely or that he had just taken it? Or what? |
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Posted by Easy on Mon May 21 12:27:04 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 12:16:50 2012. Why stop at a gun? Why not restrict him from ever driving a car? Cars would be much more dangerous wouldn't they? And what about kids? Who knows what could happen? Maybe people with sleep disorders should never be allowed to have kids? Let's put our minds to work and figure out as much stuff as possible to ban them from doing for their own safety and ours. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 12:28:55 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by Easy on Mon May 21 12:22:13 2012. If the medic put it on his ACR, then Zimmerman is currently on it. |
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Re: Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable' |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:38:35 2012, in response to Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu May 17 17:56:57 2012. He's right there. Had Zimmerman stayed in the car, this probably doesn't happen.But it's not a crime to follow someone. |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:41:05 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 11:56:55 2012. Your dishonesty knows no bounds.If he had this in his system, it made him less capable of defending himself and an easier mark for Martin's MMA hijinks. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 21 12:43:26 2012, in response to Re: Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:38:35 2012. But it's not a crime to follow someone.Following someone you suspect of a crime, and being overconfident because you are armed, is definitely a form of recklessness. Whether it becomes criminal negligence is a matter for the law to decide. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:51:49 2012, in response to Re: Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable', posted by AlM on Mon May 21 12:43:26 2012. It's no crime to follow someone on the street. If you initiate an confrontation, then it's a crime. The eyewitnesses here indicate it was Martin who initiated the confrontation. What Zimmerman did was not a crime, even if it was irresponsible and wrong. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 12:55:54 2012, in response to Re: Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:51:49 2012. Which "eye witnesses"?It's also not a crime or instigation for someone to ask why they're being followed. Given that there is a minor involved, it's reasonable to ask. |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 13:03:54 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:41:05 2012. If Restoril appears on Zimmerman's ACR, it was in his system at the time the report was made. The rationale for this conclusion is EMS protocol, which mandates the documentation of any meds the patient is currently on, because of potential contraindications to other meds the EMS crew or ER personnel may have to give the patient.On and " mental or mood problems (eg, aggression, agitation, anxiety)" are among the "severe side effects of Restoril (Temazepam), as listed by the manufacturer. NOW who's being "dishonest"? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 21 13:08:19 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by Easy on Mon May 21 12:27:04 2012. Guns are a public safety issue. Someone who's unstable, with a gun, may well end up shooting an innocent person. Look at the title of this thread. Duh. |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon May 21 14:12:04 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by Easy on Mon May 21 12:22:13 2012. I can hear Carlin already: "You tell me you have to take a drug test to get a job but not if you shoot someone?"Your pal, Fred |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 15:12:21 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 13:03:54 2012. Not a peep out of ChrisR16/R2730...wonder why? |
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Not so fast! (Re: Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon May 21 16:02:08 2012, in response to Dershowitz: drop the charges against Zimmerman, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 18 13:03:53 2012. Angela Corey has won a very recent case with even longer odds, however. Last week, she won a case in a case where everyone presumed SYG would have applied...but Corey successfully defeated an invocation attempt.The person on trial was Marissa Alexander, who was a victim of domestic violence and shot her husband. The trial was a bench trial. That is why Corey was brought in - to deconstruct an SYG defense. |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon May 21 16:39:36 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 15:12:21 2012. The problem with you guys climbing up on perches over this is that you can be knocked off. I prefer to shoot spitballs from the back of the room.Your pal, Fred |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon May 21 16:50:37 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:41:05 2012. "..............Martin's MMA hijinks"You call walking to a 7-11 to buy some snacks and then walking from the 7-11......MMA Hijinks? WTF man! the kid was UNARMED and Z man was NOT! |
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Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds |
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Posted by Easy on Mon May 21 16:55:21 2012, in response to Re: Oh my: George Zimmerman may or may not have had drugs in his system, EMS Report Finds, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 13:03:54 2012. Actually the table in your link does not list aggression or agitation, which implies that they occur in less than 1% of users. Most of the other side effects are reported more or less to occur the same as a placebo. You're really reaching with this info. |
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Re: Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable' |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon May 21 17:53:55 2012, in response to Sanford Police: Trayvon/Zimmerman Encounter Was 'Avoidable', posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu May 17 17:56:57 2012. I agree, if he was locked up earlier, he wouldn't have been cruising around Sanford acting tough. |
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