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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 23:55:30 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 23:29:12 2012.

It's moot now. I've given up on arguing about NYC getting the glider while DC gets the real thing.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 28 00:14:25 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 23:55:30 2012.

DC is the national capital.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 28 00:18:30 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 18:56:36 2012.

It would have made more sense then to keep it the Constitution and name one of the newer orbiters Enterprise. Then the Shuttles would have been the "Constitution Class Orbiters"

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by grand concourse on Sat Apr 28 00:21:05 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 28 00:14:25 2012.

Yes I got it already b/w you and the others. Hence the moot point. So big friggin whoop for DC.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by WillD on Sat Apr 28 01:03:21 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 27 16:58:36 2012.

Also wasn't most of it designed by Lockheed at their skunkworks facility in Palmdale?

Twas Rockwell, they always had facilities at Plant 42 in Palmdale as well. Lockheed kept pushing their LX-200 Starclipper design and wanted a titanium structure under the thermal tiles. Amusingly enough, NASA rejected the Starclipper because at the time they were pushing for a fully reusable flyback booster and the Starclipper would have placed a large fraction of the craft's hydrogen in a large conformal expendable external tank around the nose. As it was we got a large, external, expendable tank anyway once they decided to do away with the flyback booster and go for the 'cheaper now' alternative (which turned out not to be).



And well, if the shuttle had been built of titanium then it might have stood a chance at surviving the thermal protection problems that doomed STS-107.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 01:08:16 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Sat Apr 28 00:21:05 2012.

Look at the bright side, bro ... DC ain't got no arnines, and that ain't gonna change. :)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Apr 28 01:13:00 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 01:08:16 2012.

DC ain't got no arnines

FWIW, the WMATA 1000s are approaching that age where the Arnines getting trashed. Besides, some of us prefer AC traction whines and units capable of sustained 55 mph operation with a real acceleration rate. :-)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 01:35:48 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Apr 28 01:13:00 2012.

Go ahead and be snooty, bro ... in 1932, arnines were bangin' ... :)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 01:36:54 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 01:08:16 2012.

DC ain't got no arnines

Their loss. DC Metro too young to have trains like this running . . .



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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 01:38:23 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 23:55:30 2012.

Should we go bananas over the fact that the Blackbird on Intrepid is an A-12 instead of a "real thing" SR-71?

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 01:53:49 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 01:36:54 2012.

They were shiny and fast when they was new. :)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Apr 28 02:05:39 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 01:35:48 2012.

Go ahead and be snooty, bro

If you're really bored, head to Berlin and ride the H and HK stock which sounds downright Arnine-ish* when the windows are open despite having modern AC traction motors.

*or sounded to me when I rode on teh fan trips...

in 1932, arnines were bangin'

FWIW, the Standards didn't have the conductor in a deathtrapish position, and the BMT's experimental stuff built in the 1930s was downright revolutionary given that the lightweight, high acceleration design wouldn't be seen until the 1960s with CTA's 2000s...

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 02:28:13 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 01:38:23 2012.

Very interesting and 2 very similar looking planes

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 02:29:07 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 27 18:29:52 2012.

Thank you

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 06:33:45 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Apr 28 02:05:39 2012.

What can I say? REAL conductors worked outside! :)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 28 08:05:45 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by grand concourse on Fri Apr 27 20:53:14 2012.

It was fine when it was just the ballys-mgm grand monorail shuttle. Its totally useless now with the current aet up...and more so...the price structure. Truthfully....the free peopl movers are better. If just going from casino to casino...the FREE people movers were best. You could go from mandalay bay to luxor and then to excalibur....with that people mover. Walk right next door to new york new york.... then next door to monte carlo. When ready....take the monte carlo to bellagio peoplemover. Later walk next door to ceasars and mirage...... then take the mirage to treasure island people mover. You are half way down the strip already...and all the casinos past that suck anyway...

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by grand concourse on Sat Apr 28 11:04:44 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 28 08:05:45 2012.

Exactly.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 14:12:10 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Apr 27 20:47:56 2012.

Those are ships, not spaceships. Try again.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Apr 28 14:16:21 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 14:12:10 2012.

wrong again Dan Lawrence  why are you always wrong Dan Lawrence. Dan Lawrence  you should just stop posting

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Apr 28 14:39:17 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by DAND124 on Sat Apr 28 14:16:21 2012.

You're wrong, JACKASS. Read the post Dan was responding to.

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=936612

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Apr 28 14:47:30 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Rockparkman on Sat Apr 28 14:39:17 2012.

i read what he was responding to. he didn't get it as usual.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 15:59:57 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 28 00:18:30 2012.

LOL!

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 28 16:00:40 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 16:51:30 2012.

Because of its existence, the other ones got engines and heat shields.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by WillD on Sat Apr 28 16:07:45 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 06:33:45 2012.

Give it a few years. We'll start seeing systems which have no onboard operator but at busier stations have a platform conductor to operate a door control panel either on the side of the train or at a console at the center of the platform. Presumably door control would be done via CCTV from a central location for less utilized stations.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by WillD on Sat Apr 28 16:15:10 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 14:12:10 2012.

Yes, they're the really noteworthy Enterprises, not some fictional creation or a mere glider. But the US Navy, in their infinite wisdom, has not yet committed to continuing one of our most legendary warship lineages with CVN-80, even as they make us the butt of every joke by naming CVN-78 after Ford and consider naming CVN-80 or 81 after Barry Goldwater.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 28 16:31:22 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 28 16:15:10 2012.

They should stop naming ships after people.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 18:09:50 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 28 16:07:45 2012.

Nah ... they'll probably have some vice president of door operations who'll pop 'em from the one working camera somewhere on the platform with an ipad. :)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 19:53:06 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by DAND124 on Sat Apr 28 14:16:21 2012.

Look DAND124, STOP this WADL crap or move to the house of the Turtle.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Apr 28 20:40:19 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 19:53:06 2012.

Turtles WADDLE, how else would they walk?

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 28 21:29:46 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 28 16:15:10 2012.

The Navy tends to name carriers after their "friends" in Congress or the White House, hence the Vinson and the Reagan. Interestingly, President Jimmy Carter did not have a carrier named after him, but a sub (SSN-23), in recognition of his time in the Silent Service. IIRC, subs are usually named after cities, states, or earlier subs, rather than Presidents.

But yes, Enterprise is a storied and honored name among American naval ships, and it would seem fitting that a new carrier continue the lineage, when CVN-65 is decommissioned next year.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 21:40:33 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 28 21:29:46 2012.

Yep ... naming rights is how you get expensive shit funded. Works that way in the arts too. :)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 28 21:53:26 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 21:40:33 2012.

yup. The Alvin Ailey American Dance theater, for example, was largely funded by (and named for) the Tisch family. (So was the Tisch Pavilion at Lincoln Center, the Tisch Drama Conservatory, the Tisch Hospital at NYU...oh, you get the picture...)

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 28 21:58:11 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 28 21:53:26 2012.

I won't even start on that old grouch Avery Fisher. :)

So republicans hold an expensive boat hostage in the house, Navy says, "let's name it after Ronnie" and suddenly, a big boats gets built. THIW. Heh.

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Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 28 22:10:13 2012, in response to Re: Intrepid Museum Gets Shuttle Enterprise, Houston Has a Problem, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 28 19:53:06 2012.

Stop being so sure of yourself and he'll stop!

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