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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 09:17:55 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 11 00:56:01 2019. Mr. Mueller disagrees with you, and he has filed criminal indictments in support of his position. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 09:18:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 09:01:40 2019. You may have to be stupid to be swayed by them, but that just means there were stupid voters on both sides. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 11 10:07:10 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 09:01:40 2019. But it helps Lol |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 10:22:00 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 11 00:56:01 2019. They quite clearly have stated, on several occasions, that was NOT THE CASE. What part of facts don't you get? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 10:23:08 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 00:03:01 2019. As far as the voters went, she DID. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 10:24:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 11 07:33:34 2019. No, that's fake news. And everybody knows it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 10:36:06 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 10:23:08 2019. LOL!I hope for our country's sake that the Democrats ignore people who think like you for the 2020 campaign. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 10:55:10 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 10:36:06 2019. And I have to agree with you.It would really be nice to have someone good to vote for, for once. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 10:55:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 10:23:08 2019. You learned nothing from 2016. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 10:58:42 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 18:25:32 2019. Bump. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 11 11:28:39 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 11 00:56:01 2019. Ha ha but instead they installed an operative in the White House |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 11:30:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 11 07:33:34 2019. I think you'd better phone up Mueller right away and let him know, before he gets lot of innocent people indicted for crimes everyone knows they didn't commit. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 11:32:28 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 11:30:48 2019. #WitchHunt |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 11 12:04:39 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 11:30:48 2019. Geez I hope it’s not too late#SSBillRescue |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 12:06:40 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 10:55:36 2019. LOL! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 12:10:39 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 12:06:40 2019. He’s right. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Mar 11 12:16:18 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 10:55:36 2019. She's clicking her heels together and repeating, " there is no president like Hillary". |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 12:39:54 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Mar 11 12:16:18 2019. Especially compared to what we’re stuck with,she would have been a genius.And rights would be safe. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 12:43:35 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 12:39:54 2019. You've been saying this for years. It doesn't fucking matter anymore. What's done is done and the catastrophe happened. At this point it's about stopping further damage in 2020. Your crying over spilled milk doesn't help that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 12:47:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 12:06:40 2019. Laugh all you want. But if they (you) don't learn from the mistakes of 2016, the Democrats are doomed to repeat it. And then you will be in the same misanthropic miserable position you are now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 12:48:44 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 12:39:54 2019. WTF difference does that make. Your statement is up for opinion and debate, but who cares?We are talking about 2020, where, if the Democrats don't watch it, the same thing will happen. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:00:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 12:43:35 2019. You're the one saying that. I'm not. And you're sorely mistaken if you don't think my motivation is stopping trump and working towards fixing the damage and healing the relationships with the world after trump's shredding of it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:01:37 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 18:25:32 2019. Hickenlooper Is considered a longshot, but at least doesn’t paint a fall into the horrible Democratic current trait of a Trumpian dystopia.He is a little more upbeat than some of the other Democrats who have turned into angry muisanthropes, and thius unlikable. But back to the longshot thing, I don't know if the extremists in the Democratic party (which make up a large part now) will back him like they would their other horrible choices like Sanders and Warren, so he probably won't even get out of the starting gate. Gillibrand is ripe for the picking for the country to reject YET ANOTHER New Yorker. She has the baggage of that. In addition, while she is not right enough to be liked by moderates and obviously the right, she is "too right" on items that many in the Democratic party wouldn't support her on. Another one I don't believe the current state of the Democrats would let out of the gate, but even if they did, would have a not too easy time against Trump. And Klobuchar just comes off as yet another angry Democrat and has the unlikable problem. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:04:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 12:47:43 2019. LOL! Wow you are so off base, off key, off yerrocker WRT me. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 13:06:04 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:01:37 2019. You said they were all hated and you were talking about the general election, against Trump.So Gillibrand is "hated" because she is a New Yorker? Klobuchar is "hated" because she comes off as angry? What are Harris and Booker hated for, other than the obvious? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:11:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 12:48:44 2019. I doubt it will because the awareness exists. What we don't know is who will try to hack results, for one, along with will the Russians be supporting trump again, and if so in what capacity? Then there's the usual dirty tricks from the republicans, will Roger Stone be in prison by then or active, even if not obviously so? What kinds of lies will the RWmedia (including fox)dream up? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:15:42 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:00:27 2019. SMDH |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 11 13:15:50 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 14:56:02 2019. All politicians have that in common - they do and say anything they have to, in order to keep their butts in office. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:16:47 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:11:48 2019. And you doubted that Trump would win in 2016. Your prognosticative powers are shit. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:19:42 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 13:06:04 2019. They are. I don't see them getting out the door with the new Democratic party, and it's giving the current Democratic party and how they operate too much credit that they will come up with a moderate, much less a likable one. And if they do, they will have a tough time, even against trump.And yes to your other questions. As for Harriz and Booker, what is obvious? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:19:56 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:04:36 2019. LOL!!! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 11 13:20:02 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 10 14:29:10 2019. I don't think FDR turned away those Jews because he was a racist. I have never once heard any anti-Semitic quote ever attributed to FDR unlike his contemporaries like Henry Ford and Father Coughlin. I do think that FDR was a politician who kept an ear on the political sentiment of the country and acted accordingly. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:20:05 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:01:37 2019. Gillibrand is ripe for the picking for the country to reject YET ANOTHER New Yorker. She has the baggage of that.That doesn't make sense. The voters would reject another New Yorker by voting for a New Yorker? And in any event, Trump is full of the stereotypical "New Yorker" traits that you think turn off the voters, Gillibrand is not. It's interesting that women suffer from "unlikability" but Trump, who is really a detestable human being, does not suffer from the same problem. Note: I actually agree with you on this, I just lament the state of affairs. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:20:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:11:48 2019. Again. LOL!!! |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Mar 11 13:21:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:00:27 2019. What are you actually doing to stop TRUMP? Did you ever stop to think that many people did not support Hillary just because they knew that you did? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:23:19 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:19:42 2019. The Democratic Party's supposed leftward tilt is overblown. In a 1 on 1 race back in 2016, there was a moderate option and a left-wing option, and the primary voters overwhelmingly chose the moderate option. Any claims of the primaries being rigged in favor of Hillary are overblown. There's no reason to assume it'll be different this time around. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:23:45 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Mar 11 13:21:26 2019. This is the last place on earth I'd discuss strategies. Did you ever wonder how many MORE supported her because you hate them? Trust me, it's a larger number. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:27:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:23:19 2019. LOL! She has said she isn't runn8ng. However, she's actually see8ng some demand. Turns out, there's a strong following, and we can add the "what if’s?l to that. Just because a minute bunch of socially handicapped males here would never vote for or support a woman for high elective office doesn't mean the rest of world agrees. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:29:37 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:27:34 2019. ???? What are you ranting about, and who are you ranting about. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:33:47 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:20:05 2019. ???? I am saying within the Democratic party she will have a harder time becoming the candidate.And what I am saying does not mean I agree or disagree with what is. I am just stating what I see with them. As for Trump, he has plenty of dislikablility, where do you get the idea he doesn't? I think as a Gillibrand is a much more likeable person than Trump. I SAID that many within her party may not like her BECAUSE she is not left enough for them, not that she has a basic dislikablility that Hillary or Warren have. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Mar 11 13:36:16 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 11 13:20:02 2019. So then his democratic constituents were anti-Semetic? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Mar 11 13:38:02 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 13:23:45 2019. But you still lost. Are you supporting shrillary again. I support your efforts |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 11 13:40:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 11 13:20:02 2019. I have never once heard any anti-Semitic quote ever attributed to FDRWhen one minds one's Ps and Qs, one conceals the truth of the heart, yes? I'm sure nobody heard him being openly racist against anyone else. Actions speak louder than words. |
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Posted by Dan on Mon Mar 11 13:43:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 12:47:23 2019. The redlined neighborhoods in the original FHA maps of the 1930s were not all minority areas. Many otherwise nice areas of S.I. and Queens were redlined because they were either low-lying areas prone to flooding or communities without sewers. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:50:32 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:33:47 2019. The question was about the candidate’s appeal in the general, so I assumed that was your response.Note that I disagree with that anyway, Democratic voters are less opposed to New York than Republicans supposedly are given that Democrats have less of a rural slant. Huh? Where did I claim that he’s not dislikable? I’m just saying that many people who claim that certain people are dislikable, completely ignore that when it comes to Trump. You appeared to be making the same argument when I thought you were talking about the general. And I explained why I disagree with you about the supposed leftward tilt of the Democrats. Not to mention that the right wing media* have every incentive to tout the supposed left-wing bona fides of the Democrats, in an obvious effort to convince moderates not to vote Democratic. *“The media that are right wing”, not “the media, which are right wing”. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 14:02:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 13:23:19 2019. My one concern would be if the left quickly consolidates to either Warren or Sanders while the rest of the pack sticks with one of each variety for a long period of time: say Harris, Klobuchar, Gillibrand, Hickenlooper, and Castro.Then the leftist could mop up a whole bunch of delegates with 33% of the vote. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 14:08:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 14:02:48 2019. The thing is, I think most of the candidates have appeal to various sects within the Democratic party, but not necessarily all.That said, i think Booker has wide appeal (I like him too actually, even if I don't agree with many of his liberal policy), however, he is likable. And I think he has appeal to many of the various sects. But in his case, while they all probably like him, he's not the favorite of ANY of the individual sects, as the other candidates respectively eachh have large appeal in one sect respectively. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 14:12:49 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 14:02:48 2019. Democrats assign all of their delegates proportionally, so that won’t happen. The result would be a brokered convention. It’s the Republicans who have fptp primaries. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 11 14:31:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 11 14:12:49 2019. I realized it wasn't winner-take-all, but I thought that if the breakdown was something like 35-20-15-10-10-5-5, the 35 person would get significantly more than 35% of the delegates.There's also the risk that if Bernie gets 35% of the delegates the fears of the left sitting out the general might cause the brokers to let him have it anyway. Just remember how much the left whined when he came in second with a minority of the vote. Imagine if he comes in with the plurality! |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Mar 11 14:45:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 11 13:29:37 2019. You're the one that thinks this place reflects the entire nation. It doesn't. Not at all. In fact, I'd say that being delusional. You're the one that keeps bringing up the 2016 election, which prompts me to remind you of its facts. I'm far more interested in winning in 2020, up and down ballot. |
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