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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 14:19:50 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 14:03:35 2012.

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lol

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 21 14:20:04 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 14:14:40 2012.

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Absolutely. While i wouldnt put red lobster in the same class....as its not really one.of those bar/grill sort of chains....but I would still say ruby>applebees>Uno Chicago. Grill>chilis>houlihans>tgi friday. Tgi friday used to be better but they really messed up their menu in recent years.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Amanda on Thu Jun 21 14:35:23 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 23:41:38 2012.

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Which Ruby's do you go to? If you go to the one in Sayville and are going for fish, you might as well go to Popei's around the block.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 14:37:53 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 07:07:43 2012.

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I love Olive Garden. Me likey breadsticks.

Only food snobs hate Olive Garden.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 14:42:18 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 14:37:53 2012.

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do you like it better than the million or so real Italian restaurants in NYC?

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 15:15:51 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 14:42:18 2012.

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80 percent of them are no better than Olive Garden, and probably are more expensive. With OG, I am reasonably assured of quality food at a set price. I am not a food snob. I don't care about farm to table, local ingredients or trendy dishes. Besides, a lot of restaurants tend to interpret dishes differently. Carbonara may mean something at a one place that doesn't line up to what I want.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 21 18:05:56 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 14:37:53 2012.

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Olive Garden is second rate, good enough if you've never had real Italian.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:22:14 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 14:42:18 2012.

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what real Italian restaurants in NYC?

The ones owned by Albanians with Mexican and El Salvadorean cooks?

Most of them are tourist traps with very little emphasis on quality.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:28:26 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 14:37:53 2012.

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When I visit NY we drive out to the Massapequa Olive Garden.

I like their lasagna. It's really baked and settled like lasagna is supposed to be.

The salad is ok but I ask for it dry so it ain't drowned in whatever they use.

I think you would like Carrabbas.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 21 18:33:14 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:28:26 2012.

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When I visit NY we drive out to the Massapequa Olive Garden.

I like their lasagna. It's really baked and settled like lasagna is supposed to be.



Please stay out of NY forever.

Stick with Florida.

You don't belong here.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:35:07 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 21 18:33:14 2012.

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Not my choice to go out there. But it's easier than Forlini.

Name a good Italian restaurant.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 21 18:36:44 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:35:07 2012.

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I've named them here several times.

I don't feel like repeating myself.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 18:39:05 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:28:26 2012.

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are you actually claiming the olive garden is better than every Italian place in NYC? i have a hard time believing that but you and chris both say so...

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:39:34 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 21 18:36:44 2012.

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Then why respond at all?

There are not many good Italian restaurants left.

Umberto's in New Hyde Park is good and so is Forlini in Manhattan.



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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 18:40:38 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 15:15:51 2012.

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it has nothing to do with being a "food snob" there are plenty of hole in the wall that are far from fancy that a much better than chains.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:42:41 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 18:39:05 2012.

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Olive Garden is not better than Umberto's but that is on Long Island.

Most Italian restaurants are garbage now. They are not Italian owned and certainly don't have Italian cooks.

It's easier to compare Carrabbas and Olive Garden to an Italian restaurant than Spark's to Sizzler. That argument would be crazy. Italian food is different.

So name a few good Italian restaurants you've been too.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:43:05 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 18:40:38 2012.

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name a few in NYC.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:55:11 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Amanda on Thu Jun 21 14:35:23 2012.

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No, I don't like the one in Sayville for some reason, although have been there a few times (and yes Popei's is really good!) I usually go to the Ruby Tuesday in Medford or Selden.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:56:40 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 14:37:53 2012.

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I also have no problem with Olive Garden. While there are plenty of good Italian restaurants around, I don't compare them to Olive Garden anyway. For what it is, I see no problem with Olive Garden. the ones that complain are the ones that never had it.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:58:15 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 21 15:15:51 2012.

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I agree. I go to quite a few Italian restaurants, and it's usually only the more expensive ones that are exceptional. There are many that are similar to Olive Garden, and there are many that are a horror and worse than Olive Garden. Just because it's not a chain doesn't mean it's good.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:58:38 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Dand124 on Thu Jun 21 18:40:38 2012.

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And there are plenty that are horrible and worse than the chains.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:59:32 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 18:22:14 2012.

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You are correct.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 22 17:41:08 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:56:40 2012.

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For what it is, I see no problem with Olive Garden. the ones that complain are the ones that never had it.

I've had it.

It was awful.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 22 17:52:14 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 21 10:37:25 2012.

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Yes, I actually eat out 3 times a day. I'm rich, more than you.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 22 17:54:16 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 22 17:52:14 2012.

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Musta' hit the lottery because you obviously don't have the smarts to add value to a business.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 17:54:28 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 21 19:56:40 2012.

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A lot of people don't like Olive Garden because it isn't that good. Just like there are people with enhances senses of hearing, sight and smell, there are those whose taste buds are more active. Hand in hand with that there are those whose taste buds are akin to a tin ear. For them there are chain restaurants like Olive Garden.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 22 17:58:18 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 22 17:54:16 2012.

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That's why i purely focus on gov't now.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 18:07:28 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 17:54:28 2012.

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It doesn't compare to a really good Italian Restaurant, but if not comparing to such, it's not inedible in the least....in fact, it's better than a lot of BAD Italian mom and pop restaurants.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 18:07:57 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 21 13:33:51 2012.

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What's Chevy's?

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 18:08:22 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 21 10:01:15 2012.

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Probably because of the idea of "chain".

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 18:13:42 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 18:07:28 2012.

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It sure is edible and my point is only to disagree that the only people who don't like it haven't been there. It's not my first choice but when I'm with friends and the consensus is "Olive Garden" I'll go along and not hang the dog face or display any other rudeness about the place. It's edible food but there are some who try it and can't go back because it didn't taste good to them.

They serve good coffee at OG btw.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jun 22 19:54:02 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 22 17:41:08 2012.

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I tend to be pro-chain unlike SMAZ, and I think Olive Garden is tasteless. I'm still surprised that it manages to stay open...

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by JayMan on Fri Jun 22 20:36:34 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 21 07:50:42 2012.

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That Ruby's was a life-saver a few years back when my gf and I were in 'Kipsie...

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 21:16:38 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jun 22 19:54:02 2012.

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Chains are good in that they tend to be more consistent. If you travel, then you know what you're getting. I can see why some don't like them, but the truth is that non-chain restaurants are very often just as bad or worse.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 22 21:27:38 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 21:16:38 2012.

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If you know someone from the city you're visiting, ask him what places are good.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jun 22 21:50:11 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 20 22:16:31 2012.

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I actually am a big fan of the burgers at Chili's of all places.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 21:57:11 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 21:16:38 2012.

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I agree with that aspect of the chains. When I get off that interchange in Bumphock I'm glad to see a Shoney's or a Subway or whatever.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 22:26:36 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 22 21:27:38 2012.

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That doesn't work well for me as often as you might think. Lots of people suggest chains for one thing. For another so much of food is ethnic now. Some people may like Thai, others may hate it. Some people like Indian, many others can't stand it. For me, I think that two of the most popular - Italian and Mexican - are overrated. So what's left? Steak and seafood? Those are all the same.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 22:32:00 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by TonyG on Fri Jun 22 21:50:11 2012.

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I had some good ones there, some bacon cheeseburger thing, and it was good.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 22:33:40 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 21:16:38 2012.

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I agree with that. While at the chains, you won't have that phenomenal "sexual" experience meal you will at some mom and pop places....at the same time, you also won't have that horror of a meal you get at some mom and pop places. You will always get the consistent mediocre meal you expect.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 22:34:31 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 22:33:40 2012.

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Exactly.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 22:34:58 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 22:26:36 2012.

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O love both Italian and Mexican. But then again, I also like Japanese. And other things. I just love to eat.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Dand124 on Fri Jun 22 22:40:37 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 22 21:27:38 2012.

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or use yelp

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 22:49:06 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 22:34:58 2012.

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I don't think that I've ever had non-chain, non-deli Italian. I like Mexican, but it doesn't have variety. A few dishes that come in chicken, pork, or beef that all taste kind of the same.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 22:55:35 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 22 22:34:58 2012.

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LOL! So true.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 23:00:05 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Dand124 on Fri Jun 22 22:40:37 2012.

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yelp's weakness is that it's user reviews.

I prefer chowhound as it's a forum and bogus reviews can be shouted down.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 23:01:58 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 23:00:05 2012.

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I haven't used chowhound, but I have had considerable success with yelp.

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 23:08:19 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 22 23:01:58 2012.

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chowhound is broader based than just restaurants but I've found good advice.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Ruby Tuesday

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jun 23 00:14:21 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 23:00:05 2012.

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yelp's weakness is that it's user reviews.

Arguably, the same thing is true for a site like Trip Adviser in regards to hotel reviews, so the best thing to do is to keep an open mind and filter reviews as needed since some poor reviews are isolated cases written by cranks with a grudge or lack of judgment*. Plus, the one thing that you can do is to add your own reviews to ensure keep things fair.

*e.g. expecting Waldorf-Astoria levels of service at an Econolodge...

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Re: Ruby Tuesday (Corrected)

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jun 23 00:17:09 2012, in response to Re: Ruby Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 22 23:00:05 2012.

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yelp's weakness is that it's user reviews.

Arguably, the same thing is true for a site like Trip Adviser in regards to hotel reviews, so the best thing to do is to keep an open mind and filter reviews as needed since some poor reviews are isolated cases written by cranks with a grudge or lack of judgment*. Plus, the one thing that you can do is to add your own reviews to crowd out the isolated poor reviews. Don't just use the user content, but add to it as well so others can make a decision without polluted information.

Speaking of that, I should write up some reviews for the hotels and restaurants from the Pacific Northwest trip. :-)

*e.g. expecting Waldorf-Astoria levels of service at an Econolodge...

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