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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 16:54:06 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 16:24:02 2019. He'll be fine. There's a GoFundMe already up for him, and it has so far raised more than $24K.Even if he doesn't get a settlement, he'll have good money. While driving a desk, Pantaleo still made beaucoup OT. Money won't be at issue. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 16:56:11 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 16:24:02 2019. They decided to pay back his contributed portion of his pension account. He's done. This was announced at the PC. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:11:39 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 16:49:21 2019. Do you realize that candidates get investigated before they are hired? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:14:57 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 19 16:46:27 2019. You have NO idea how the NYPD Trial Room works. 95% of the time, the verdict is already predetermined before the member even steps foot in the room. It's not xalled Kangaroo Court for nothing! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:16:22 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 16:47:41 2019. I never knew that you are familiar with the NYPD Patrol Guide! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:18:43 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 16:49:04 2019. I know you don't believe that. Keep making a career criminal some sort of victim.They did the best they could have. What did Pantaleo do that affected the EMS crew's actions? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:20:47 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 16:45:15 2019. It wasn't around his throat, and it was released when he was on the ground |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:20:52 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:18:43 2019. Pantaleo created the situation that called for a bus to come to the scene. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:21:35 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:20:47 2019. That is categorically false. Pantaleo was choked out until he could no longer stand upright. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:21:54 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 16:45:15 2019. You know what minimum violence is, a quick wooden shampoo. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:23:11 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 16:45:39 2019. You KNOW this wasn't over loosies. But keep hero-worshipping your perps. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:23:18 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:18:43 2019. I suggest you read O'Neill's synopsis of his decision. It's on Scribd, so it should be easy to find. He's pretty clear on why he let Pantaleo go. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 19 17:24:44 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:14:57 2019. Just like at Labor Relations at NYCT. Before the hearing even starts, management and the union discuss the case and the penalty before the employee even enters the room. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:25:28 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 16:54:06 2019. An order came out a few years ago, basically firbidding modified members from accruing overtime. The exceptions were the CBs and property clerk |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:34:16 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 16:56:11 2019. That happens. PLEASE don't make a fool out out yourself trying to "teach" me police policy. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 19 17:36:04 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:34:16 2019. Then shut up and teach us policy SS bill |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:39:05 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 19 17:24:44 2019. Exactly! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:39:58 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:20:52 2019. I cannot believe you just said that. The RESISTING PERP caused the situation. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:41:23 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:23:18 2019. Don't be naive. That's the excuse. The reason is different altogether. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:42:06 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:21:35 2019. He was pulled to the ground! Get your eyes checked! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:52:18 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:25:28 2019. Are you very sure about that? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:53:52 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:39:58 2019. "Resisting"......does not merit execution. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:57:24 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:52:18 2019. And then they promptly get transferred to a unit that has no OT. So, yes, I'm sure. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:57:54 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:53:52 2019. He bought the ticket, he saw the show |
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Re: Pantaleo Fired; De Blasio’s NYC Loses More Credibility |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:10:18 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired; De Blasio’s NYC Loses More Credibility, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 12:48:30 2019. Congratulations. You got your pound of flesh |
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Re: Pantaleo Fired; De Blasio’s NYC Loses More Credibility |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 18:16:52 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired; De Blasio’s NYC Loses More Credibility, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:10:18 2019. If I'm Shylock, who's playing the role of Antonio? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:20:37 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:23:18 2019. Yes we all know "why he was fired". |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:23:55 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 17:21:35 2019. You fucking racist idiot, Pantaleo was never choked. You have to be one dumb mother-fucker. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:24:47 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:20:37 2019. Because he grossly violated documented, long-standing NYPD procedures. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:27:39 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:23:55 2019. I suppose the Staten Island ME is also a "dumb mother-fucker", since he ruled airway compression was Garner's primary cause of death. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:27:41 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:24:47 2019. Politics, you piece of shit. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:28:20 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:27:41 2019. That is incorrect. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:28:45 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:27:39 2019. No, I thought that I made it clear. You are a dumb, racist motherfucker. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:29:43 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:28:20 2019. Lying sack of racist shit. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:33:35 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:28:45 2019. Stop projecting. It's just sad. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:43:19 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 18:28:45 2019. Projecting? God would have struck you with a lightning bolt if it wasn't such a waste of electricity. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 18:49:44 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 18:27:39 2019. Airway compression doesn't necessarily mean asphyxiation. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 19:07:10 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 18:49:44 2019. Airway compression that ends in death almost always means strangulation or asphyxiation. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 19 19:17:23 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 18:49:44 2019. But it does mean you're fired. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 20:16:32 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 19:07:10 2019. OR being morbidly overweight that your trachea cannot support your own weight when put in a position like that. But oh well, he's dead! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 20:17:31 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 19 19:17:23 2019. *Slaps my forehead* If you aren't comprehending what I'm saying by now, you never will. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 20:24:39 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 20:16:32 2019. Hmm. Somehow, Garner went to sleep every night in a supine position without dying... |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 20:30:45 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:34:16 2019. I'm not. Just relating what was said at the PC, which you obviously did not see. Otherwise, you'd know what actually happened. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 20:37:31 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:11:39 2019. Not so much in small underfunded rural-ish cities. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 20:52:07 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 20:24:39 2019. How the fuck would you know that? He might have slept on s subway seat |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 21:15:41 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 19 20:52:07 2019. Garner wasn't homeless. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 19 21:16:06 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 19 13:56:32 2019. Happy? Nah. Whats to be happy about? Nobody should find happiness in tragedy. There are no winners here, only losers. Garner lost his life. Pantaleo lost his life as he knows it. It is done. Time to move on. Nothing can be changed or brought back by rehashing this over and over.Pantaleo should take whatever $$$ is due to him & get the hell out of NYC. Move at least 1000 miles away, try & start over & thank his lucky stars that hes not in a max security lockup doing serious time. End of story. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 21:30:36 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 19 17:39:58 2019. He couldn’t,t breathe, thus logic logic dictates the chokehold be released by the time he hit the pavement. However, Pantaleo held it. That was the line he chose to cross. He deserves firing at minimum. Sad to think this is as close to justice as Mr Garners family will ever see. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 19 21:33:44 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 19 21:16:06 2019. Exactly. Time for him to find another line of work. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 22:04:59 2019, in response to Re: Pantaleo Fired, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 19 21:16:06 2019. Wow, you just take for granted that corrupt government will never fall. |
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