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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 5 11:59:18 2017, in response to Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 1 19:18:38 2017.

There's signs in restaurants all saying things like "You can thank Mayor Kelley for the higher non-alcoholic drink prices". The commonwealth will most likely overturn this tax, but it will be too late - the jobs will be gone.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 5 12:03:09 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 5 11:59:18 2017.

Mayor Kenney*

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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 5 13:14:18 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 5 11:59:18 2017.

That's absurd. 1.5 cents per ounce doesn't have a serious impact on restaurant prices. It doesn't even have much impact on the sale of a can of soda in a deli.

It only has a really serious percentage impact on the sale price of 2 liter bottles in supermarkets.


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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Sun Mar 5 21:39:14 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 25 12:56:59 2017.

like water, people flow downward and follow the path of least resistance. 7-11 etc. are champs at presenting foodstuffs quickly and neatly.

with some wise choices you can still eat "fairly" heathy there.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 5 21:41:47 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 5 13:14:18 2017.

You have to build in the cost of someone getting a refill. So 20oz x 2 = 40oz = 60 cents across the board raise for soda at every establishment with a fountain.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Sun Mar 5 21:42:01 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 25 14:14:34 2017.

as a native american, i will always enjoy a cold cola with dinner. not necessarily coke; some store brands actually tast better.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Sun Mar 5 21:43:04 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 20:55:29 2017.

heh.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Mar 5 21:45:50 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 5 13:14:18 2017.

Liberal logic 101: "Well I wouldn't mind paying that so no one else will!"

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 5 22:25:16 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by ntrainride on Sun Mar 5 21:39:14 2017.

what is healthy at 7-11?

I know they have some fresh fruit.

Yogurt.

Other than that, it's sad.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Mar 5 22:47:32 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 5 22:25:16 2017.

They sell condoms!

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 5 23:06:31 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 5 22:25:16 2017.

Hard boiled eggs.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 02:28:07 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 5 22:25:16 2017.

fruit, some sandwiches, water, juice, salads, tuna fish, other stuff.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 02:36:34 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 25 13:43:25 2017.

shoot. i remember in the 80's there was a soda brand being sold mainly in small grocery stores in the lower income areas. it was a little bigger, 22 oz. and cheaper than coke, pepsi, fanta etc. but word had got around that there waa something in those sodas that made you sterile. as i remember it, think they went out of business

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 6 03:11:45 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 02:36:34 2017.

some argue that sugar is causing infertility.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 6 03:45:05 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 25 14:13:17 2017.

Be glad that's a false dilemma.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 05:33:59 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 02:36:34 2017.

I remember that! However, the story was that it made blacks and hispanics sterile. And GROWN men went on the news and said that. SMH.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 6 06:28:18 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 02:36:34 2017.

i remember in the 80's there was a soda brand being sold mainly in small grocery stores in the lower income areas. it was a little bigger, 22 oz. and cheaper than coke, pepsi, fanta etc. but word had got around that there was something in those sodas that made you sterile.

I forgot the name but wasn't it a soda with humongous loads of caffeine ?

as i remember it, think they went out of business

Probably Coke or Pepsi started that rumor.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 07:00:56 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 6 06:28:18 2017.

not sure; i never looked into it.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 07:11:47 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 6 06:28:18 2017.

That is Jolt you're thinking of. That wasn't it.


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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 07:38:11 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 07:11:47 2017.

right. wasn't jolt, which has real sugar and lots of it. actually...to me the best tasting coke is bottled in old mexico way, that uses real sugar. figures it's mexico.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 07:39:10 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 05:33:59 2017.

yep. a totally idiotic premise.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 08:00:58 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 05:33:59 2017.

this what all de hubbub was about. i was living in bensonhurst then...one of the few there who voted for dinkins. truth :)

dopey tropical fantasy soda rumor

Black Conspiracy Theories 101:

Tropical Fantasy Drinks Makes Black Men Sterile?!

Written By ionerlogan
5 years ago

It was the fall of 1990, and a new and inexpensive drink, Tropical Fantasy, hit the inner-city scene like gangbusters across the country. Its popularity spread like wildfire, but it was only a matter of time before it became riddled with Black conspiracy theory rumors.

With its yummy taste and cheap price of 49 cents for 20 ounces, Tropical Fantasy, which was manufactured by Brooklyn Bottling out of New York City, was way lower than any of the more mainstream soft drinks and other beverages. Nearly a year in to taking the urban scene by storm, though, Tropical Fantasy turned into an urban nightmare.

Anonymous pamphlets began popping up in hoods all across the United States, saying that Tropical Fantasy contained a secret concoction that was added by the White supremacist gang the Ku Klux Klan. The alleged additive was intended for Black men, and the ingredient’s potent power could sterilize them, rendering them unable to have children.

Brooklyn Bottling’s advertising was aimed at the Black consumer: The location of its products was predominantly in areas with high concentrations of African Americans, so the company was an easy target for conspiracy. The company tried to stop the false rumors, regarding its products, but were unsuccessful.

Upon hearing about the conspiracy theory, folks panicked and stopped buying the Tropical Fantasy sodas: Sales plummeted by a whopping 70 percent, and the drink was renamed “Tropical Fanticide,” with many of the company’s storekeepers and truck drivers being targeted and attacked.

Rumors began swirling that Coke and Pepsi, the competitors of Tropical Fantasy, were behind the false rumors that were killing the once-wildly-successful soft drink company so that they could regain their throne. Of course, company reps for the bottling companies denied having any role in trying to destroy their competition.


Desperate to combat the sterilization rumor that was putting them on a fast track to bankruptcy, Brooklyn Bottling hired a Black public relations firm. The company sent out trucks wrapped in advertising that denied the falsehoods and even took Tropical Fantasy to the feds to be tested by the FDA, so they could publicly announce the agency’s negative findings.

Unfortunately, even though Brooklyn Bottling had absolutely exhausted their anti-conspiracy theory campaigns, their soft drink was still rejected by the Black masses.

Until David Dinkins, who was New York City’s first Black mayor, came to their rescue. For many, particularly Blacks, Dinkins was highly respected, nicknamed “Mr. Nice Guy,” and stood for integrity. The troubled company asked Dinkins to drink one of their beverages on television in order to dispel the destructive rumors surrounding them.

And he did!


One month after Mayor Dinkins drank a Tropical Fantasy on TV, Brooklyn Bottling was back in the Black (so to speak).

Today, many young people still refer to Tropical Fantasy as “Nutties,” because of the stories told to them by folks who remember that, 5 upon a time, the drink was rumored to be a sperm killer.

Bottoms up!

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 09:25:55 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 07:38:11 2017.

That's the ONLY coke I'll drink. Also the Passover coke, which is also made with sucrose (sugar).

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 6 10:12:21 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by ntrainride on Mon Mar 6 08:00:58 2017.



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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 6 10:54:05 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 09:25:55 2017.

I used to stock up on KfP Coke before I switched to diet.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 11:00:28 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 6 10:54:05 2017.

I don't normally drink soda, but those magical yellow caps I snatch up! When they're "out of season" and I MUST have a coke, Mexican it is!

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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 6 13:33:44 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 5 13:14:18 2017.

The most false post you've ever made.

Who is going to pay for the "free refills" for instance?

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Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 6 13:34:33 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax—Pepsi Laying off 80-100 Positions in Philly Area, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 5 12:03:09 2017.

I thought the amnesty of illegals was going to patch the tax hole in that hole, so why'd they need to have the highest soda tax there is?

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 6 13:37:02 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 05:33:59 2017.

I guess they now sell that in the middle east with how many claims still go on there.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 7 01:30:29 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 09:25:55 2017.

Same here.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 01:41:01 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 6 09:25:55 2017.

didn't soda manufacturers move away from high-fructose corn syrup due to backlash?

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 01:41:28 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 01:41:01 2017.

............isn't it the same sweetener year-round now?

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Mar 7 02:54:41 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 6 10:12:21 2017.

lol. come on, drink up now...

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 7 03:43:01 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 01:41:01 2017.

No. All the "big" brands still use HFCS.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 03:57:29 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 7 03:43:01 2017.

oh.

People always say sucrose is better than HFCS.

Isn't HFCS sweeter and therefore should be better in soda? HFCS is a process of removing some of the glucose, the starchy part of sugar, thus making the beverage sweeter.

I've had all this stuff years ago and came to the conclusion that the soda from Mexico that everyone was raving about, tasted better because it's bottled properly, compared to plastic.

I'm going to keep a look out this year for all this stuff this year.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 7 05:22:23 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 03:57:29 2017.

No. Sugar is sweeter.


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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 05:29:11 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 7 05:22:23 2017.

Oh. I heard that HFCS is 55% fructose while sucrose is 50% fructose. That's the controversy.

Either way, I will be reading labels to find out more about this stuff.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 7 06:30:41 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 03:57:29 2017.

It tastes better in glass.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 7 10:32:12 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 7 03:57:29 2017.

Lulz. First, I will admit I agree 1000% on the "Mexican Coke". It IS better. Plus the glass is chemically neutral, agreed that despite manufacturers claims to the contrary, plastics are not wise containers for acidic foods.

That being said........you have it all wrong my brainbaked friend. Glucose is the simple form of sugar, it's what get metabolized in cells. All other sugars and their "cousins" long chain starches, must be broken down in digestion before they are of any use to the human body.

Glucose doesn't taste terribly sweet. Sucrose (basic table sugar from cane or beets) takes that prize, followed by fructose (naturally occurring fruit sugar). So additional HFCS is needed to make an equally sweet beverage compared to sugar.

The process to mke HFCS involves enzymes to break down plain ols cornstarch to extract fructose from it.

Both sucrose and fructose are chains of glucose, sometimes referred to as short-chain starches.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 7 15:32:30 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 7 10:32:12 2017.

I will admit I agree 1000% on the "Mexican Coke". It IS better. Plus the glass is chemically neutral, agreed that despite manufacturers claims to the contrary, plastics are not wise containers for acidic foods.

A good friend of mine who used to drink Coke Classic once told me that Coke in glass bottles had the best flavor. Plastic bottles and even aluminum cans had a funny taste that his taste buds could tell.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 7 19:55:08 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 7 15:32:30 2017.

Soda, milk, and juice is better in real glass.

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Re: Philly Soda Tax

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 8 01:55:46 2017, in response to Re: Philly Soda Tax, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 7 15:32:30 2017.

It tastes like shit in plastic bottles (as does any beverage).

It's better in cans and better yet in glass bottles.

Your good friend has good taste buds (and so do I).

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