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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 30 22:32:31 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 30 22:02:20 2014. Correct, and that's distinct from its archaic meaning of "anti-descendants of Shem". |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 22:33:50 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 30 22:22:10 2014. And you've proven yourself to be a complete asshole. Do you really think I'd even bother hanging around here if I were an antisemite? |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 22:39:18 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 22:14:26 2014. http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Theology/Who_is_a_Jew/Types_of_Jews/Semites.shtml |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:48:56 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 22:39:18 2014. That has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism only relates to Jews. |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 22:50:42 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:48:56 2014. Hate against others still remains the same monster in my book. If we want to define antisemitism as something else, that's fine by me but hating groups of people instead of individuals will remain the same as far as I'm concerned. No disrespect to anyone intended by that. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:51:40 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 22:39:18 2014. From Wikipedia:
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 30 22:52:11 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:23:13 2014. +1 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 30 22:52:42 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 30 22:24:48 2014. +1 |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 30 22:52:59 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:48:56 2014. +1 |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 30 22:53:39 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:51:40 2014. +1 |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 23:07:15 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:51:40 2014. OK ... I get it. We're supposed to hate everybody except Jews. I never suggested that antisemitism doesn't exist, but that it's the same monster - hate - that rears itself elsewhere too, and to my mind if it's permitted anywhere, towards anyone, then others become justified in hating back. :-\My whole point is invalid I guess. But here's the point I was trying to make - we've got to stop the hate everywhere. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Sep 30 23:56:41 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 20:59:59 2014. Maybe the point selkirk (correct me if I'm wrong) trying to make is even though of course there is differences between antisemitism, islamaphobia racism etc etc the hate and the ignorance the hate is based off of is the same. Hate is hate no matter who it is against. No hate whether it's antisemitism, racism and any other isms is worse than the other it's all hate and it's all terrible. For me I'm black and I'm outraged at racism however I'm just as outraged at hate against any other group whether it's against jews, muslims, latinos, native americans or whoever. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 23:59:02 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Sep 30 23:56:41 2014. There ya go, it's that simple. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 00:01:41 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 23:59:02 2014. And just to refine your fine understanding just one bit more, when that hate is directed towards an entire group, many of whom are innocent of whatever grudge one may have, that hate isn't being directed at the specific person who wronged you, it's directed at everyone who even looks like them. That kind of hate is what justified the holocaust and many other genocides. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Oct 1 00:04:05 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 23:07:15 2014. I see your point unfortunately they are playing a semantics game apparently. Hate is hate no matter who it's against. I guess we are supposed to be more outraged if one group is hated against than another...smh We should ALL be outraged at hate no matter who it's against. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Oct 1 00:06:03 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 00:01:41 2014. +1000000000000000 couldn't agree more. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 00:21:57 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Oct 1 00:04:05 2014. Precisely. But I'm just going to leave it there, I've said my piece and I live it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 01:41:43 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 23:07:15 2014. We're supposed to hate everybody except JewsOnly someone looking for an excuse to hate Jews would come up with such "bullsquirt" as you sometimes like to say. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 01:43:01 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 30 22:51:40 2014. The footnotes are enough confirmation. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 01:43:32 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 30 22:22:10 2014. Since Jews are an ethnicity, what can one conclude from that? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 02:29:27 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 00:01:41 2014. So the Holocaust was "justified"? The entire thing was based on lies. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:32:40 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 01:41:43 2014. I'd say, especially given many of the things YOU'VE added here of racist bent, might not be quite qualified to make such a statement. I think I've put my intentions clearly enough all these many times as to how hate is wrong no matter WHO it is directed at as a group, that it would be pretty clear to any SANE people precisely what my beliefs are.Thanks for choosing only a couple of words out of the entire context of it all. I've come to expect that from a few here. I've said my piece, I've clarified it as best as I am going to bother with, and if that doesn't suffice, well ... tough tits. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:40:05 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 30 21:03:18 2014. You are correct. There is no equivalence between one person chasing after a Muslim with a picture of pork for the sole purpose of annoying them and another person choosing not to keep kosher during Passover because they like bagels. The former is obnoxious, while the latter is mere personal preference (bagels are awesome). |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:40:06 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 20:59:59 2014. Mocking Muslims with pictures of pork = fine (and funny).Someone else choosing not to keep kosher = ZOMG ANTISEMITISM!!!!111one! And they wonder why I don't take them seriously when they do that "Israel is pure as driven snow" schtick. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:40:08 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 02:29:27 2014. Did you just deny the Holocaust? And you like to call other people Nazis?Who's the stenographer from Ology of Terror? I think we have another gem! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:43:04 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 02:29:27 2014. It sure was by those who DID it. I know Train Dude is as dumb as a box of bowling balls, what the hell happened to YOU? :(I grew up with survivors of the real deal. They imbued in me to do everything I could to stop the hate monster from coming back to life again. And here YOU are, and many others here not only feeding it, but actually stroking it and giving it aid and comfort. Let's go back to the previous administration, or Reagan or any of the OTHER "born again GOP'ers." What exactly did they do FOR Israel anyway? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:44:55 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:40:06 2014. I really need to just stop giving a fuck and let them and their monsters just do that whole biblical thing that Jim and Tammy want for them. But I just can't stop trying to stop the stupid. :-\ |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:50:25 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:43:04 2014. I know Train Dude is as dumb as a box of bowling balls, what the hell happened to YOU?Deliberate misinterpretation. Of course, two can play at that game. I want to see how he likes it when his own rules of semantics are applied to him. Give the troll a taste of his own medicine. A taste of his own potion. A taste of his own elixir. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:51:12 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:44:55 2014. SIWOTI Syndrome. Welcome to the club. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:54:22 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:51:12 2014. Interesting point. I'm chatting with one of our KNOS programmers over there right now about it. Her reaction was "How do you put up with that place? Mishegas. That's why we're glad to have them come from America, but we are SO glad when they leave. They just can't deal with complexities." :)Ah well ... I'm sure the tards will be busy when they see this thread. I've learned after many years of being advised, to just not even bother. I should have listened. :( |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 02:55:53 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:54:22 2014. i just said thanks for attacking and even drew a thank youamazing !! lol |
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Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:58:13 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 30 23:07:15 2014. That's what makes me hate humanity so much.The Nazis took power, declared the Jews subhuman and killed six million of them. And with that atrocity still in living memory, a group of Jews took power, declared the Palestinians to be subhuman and commenced their own campaign of oppression without the slightest sense of irony let alone the faintest twinge of morality. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 02:58:45 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:58:13 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:06:32 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:50:25 2014. Spent years wasting my time on that. All he's worth for the last few years is dismissal. But good luck. ChiMM is MUCH more sane. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:08:05 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 02:55:53 2014. That's what happens when you deal with IQ's of negative unsigned integers. ;)I've never in my life seen such dumb people, and best of all they turn around and call OTHER people stupid! Lulz |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:10:04 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:58:13 2014. I really want to leave this one alone given what we have here. But that's exactly what had the survivors worrying about the future of their children. :( |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 03:12:49 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:08:05 2014. ...negative unsigned...??? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 03:12:52 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:06:32 2014. ChiMM is MUCH more sane.That's... not saying much. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:18:57 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 03:12:49 2014. Look up "divide by zero" since a negative unsigned integer would really give a CPU stack a "run" for its money. :) |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 1 03:19:45 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 02:43:04 2014. Reagan’s greatest substantive contribution to the U.S.-Israel relationship was the formalization of strategic cooperation, which created a web of ties between the Pentagon and IDF and a progressive strengthening of Israel’s military capability. He worked to free of Soviet Jews, and also approved the CIA-sponsored rescue of 500 Ethiopian Jews in 1985's Operation Joshua. He also was responsible for helping to reform Israel’s economy. In 1985, following a severe economic crisis in Israel, which sent inflation rates soaring as high as 445%, the U.S. approved a $1.5 billion emergency assistance package and helped formulate Israel’s successful economic stabilization plan.Under Reagan, Israel began to receive $3 billion annually in foreign aid and, from 1985 on, the aid was all in the form of grants. Israel was allowed to use some of this aid in Israel and for a time was permitted to devote U.S. funds to the development of its own fighter plane. In 1985, the U.S. also signed its first Free Trade Agreement – with Israel. In fact, a series of memoranda of understanding were signed during the Reagan administration between U.S. agencies and their Israeli counterparts that promoted cooperation in a range of fields such as education, space research and health. So, you were saying....? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:20:53 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 03:12:52 2014. But it actually is. Think about this now, won't you? We're talking "off the charts" dumbness here. :)Don't mind me ... we're busy on this end looking through the (ahem) "fixed" bash code and know what? It AIN'T! We just found half a dozen new exploits that they just commented around upstream just to make the "try this" tests not work anymore. Russkies are STILL hammering servers. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:22:31 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:20:53 2014. It's one of the MAJOR downside of "open source code" ... the bad guys can look at it too and chuckle over badly written code and just "use it." :( |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 03:26:56 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:08:05 2014. agreedIAWTP |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:30:33 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 1 03:19:45 2014. I really don't care about this anymore. Israel needed our assistance and Ronnie flipped them off. You can research that if you weren't substituting republicanism for your religion or mine. And then there's Bitburg. Look. Let me put it to you this way. I'm extremely busy now with IDF checking out their code that they bought from us to ensure that there are no remaining BASH issues that could compromise Israel right now. Get back to me when I have time on your GOP wet dreams. K? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:39:05 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:30:33 2014. Wow ... MY apologies! Looks like history revisionism has been INSANELY buys the past couple of years. But then again, no surprise for a party that wants Jews dead so Jesus can rebuild that temple. :(http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/if-obama-treated-israel-like-reagan-did-he-d-be-impeached-1.400542 A little REAL background instead of the trough you're eating out of? WARNING: Might conflict entirely with the shit you're being handed ... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 07:05:08 2014, in response to Re: Muslims ... OK, an explanation of Semites., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:10:04 2014. You should leave it alone given that it's bullshit. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 1 07:46:03 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 03:39:05 2014. I never said Reagan didn't take actions at times contrary to Israel's best interests. But at times he also took actions that helped Israel. You see things in two shades only: black and white. That ain't how the world works. Well, maybe in your libtard world it works that way.... |
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Posted by TerrApin StatiON on Wed Oct 1 07:58:42 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:40:05 2014. Wrong. That's not what you did. |
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Posted by TerrApin StatiON on Wed Oct 1 08:00:10 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 02:40:06 2014. Wrong, wrong, and wrong, respectively. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 1 08:07:27 2014, in response to Re: Muslims, posted by TerrApin StatiON on Wed Oct 1 08:00:10 2014. I have with me on OTChat this morning Mr. Terrapin St. John Station who for the past few years has been contradicting people.Mr. Station, why do you contradict people? |
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