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Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 15:45:31 2012

it doesn't matter if Obama gets reelected and gas doubles again...or in his words...necessarily skyrockets...
he's going to pay for our gas and mortage. We take care of him, he'll take care of us!



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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Feb 20 16:55:49 2012, in response to Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 15:45:31 2012.

"he's going to pay for our gas and mortage. We take care of him, he'll take care of us!"

Really? you mean like George Bush took care of us during his 2 terms? lol.....



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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 17:03:04 2012, in response to Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 15:45:31 2012.

considering that high gas prices are being driven mainly by growth in Asia i'm not sure what Obama has to do with. unless you think the Obama is good for the global economy...

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 17:05:20 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 17:03:04 2012.

He's referring to this.



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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 17:18:47 2012, in response to Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 15:45:31 2012.

I suppose we could kiss up to Iran and that'd fix it ... is that preferable to bring down those prices?

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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 18:14:02 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 17:18:47 2012.

we did, and it didn't. You miss the love letter Obama wrote a month ago?

Not like we've ever bought Iranian gas.

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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 18:16:46 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 17:03:04 2012.

Lunch is correct.

However, I know the origin of your talking point, but the people who actually pump the oil said demand is down and supply is high. So which is it, the people who run the oil, or the administration that always makes things up for reelection?

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 18:17:17 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 18:14:02 2012.

Yeah, but the dweebs in the banks and trading pits obviously didn't get the memo and decided to shut down the refineries too. I'm sure Obama would want to bang some heads, but then that would be "socialism" so drink up, Shriners ...

Not going to be much of an issue this time around though ... bomb Iran ...

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 18:20:26 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 18:16:46 2012.

Excellent point! I think Obama might want to break out the tried and true re-election gimmick and be done with it ...



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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 18:23:03 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 18:16:46 2012.

danD124 will never respond to a LuchAAA post again.

Someone should find that lady in the video.

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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Feb 20 20:16:32 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 18:17:17 2012.

Wait, Israel will take care of Iran and they ain't kidding.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 20:23:00 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Feb 20 20:16:32 2012.

Wellll ... as good as IDF is, they don't have conventional boom-booms that are going to make it through 30 feet of reinforced concrete or the side of a mountain, so they're probably not going to go it alone.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:29:16 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 17:03:04 2012.

No but the gasoline industry is highly regulated in this country. The fact is that while supply is up because demand here is down due to the warm weather, the demand in other countries is high and that's where some of our refined products are going. The oil companies can get more for it off shore. What this do nothing congress and obummer can do is put huge taxes on domestic oil products shipped off shore to make it more profitable to sell hear. Unfortunately neither the congress or our do nothing asshole president want to take on big oil and lose their big $upport.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 20:30:27 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Feb 20 20:16:32 2012.

We're hitting Iran sometime in November-December.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 20:32:52 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:29:16 2012.

What this do nothing congress and obummer can do is put huge taxes on domestic oil products shipped off shore to make it more profitable to sell hear. Unfortunately neither the congress or our do nothing asshole president want to take on big oil and lose their big $upport.



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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 20:47:02 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:29:16 2012.

that would only work if the United States were a net exporter of oil and not a net importer

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:49:37 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 20:47:02 2012.

it certainly has nothing to do with it. I'm certain that OPEC doesn't regulate what we keep for domestic consumption and what we ship abroad.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:51:21 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 20:32:52 2012.

You and the other extremist liberals were singing a whole other tune when the gas prices were spiking in 2006. Remember Bush's Oil Buddies? You and the rest of your bunch are a bunch of hypocrites and you aren't even ashamed to be called on it.

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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 20:52:11 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:49:37 2012.

since the United States is a net importer restricting exports won't effect prices.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 20:55:17 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:51:21 2012.

Show me where I have ever advocated your confiscatory, Chavezista, market distorting measures or STFU forever.

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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 20 20:58:09 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 20:49:37 2012.

Yes but if you dared do your idea OPEC would respond in kind.

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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 20:59:11 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Feb 20 18:16:46 2012.

but the people who actually pump the oil said demand is down and supply is high.

where have they said that? what is Obama doing to prices higher?

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:03:20 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 20:55:17 2012.

Time you shut the fuck up for ever you anti-social psychopath. Don't come back until you can read, you dumb mother-fucker I never said that you advocated any market altering measures. You just cried like a little cunt about Bush's oil buddies.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:04:33 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 20:52:11 2012.

That's total nonsense. We are not importing heating oil or gasoline. We're importing crude oil.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:06:39 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 20 20:58:09 2012.

Why would OPEC respond "in kind". They are selling raw materials other nations in Europe and China are buying the refined product. I see no reason for OPEC to object as long as their exports to the USA are unchanged and their profits are not impacted.

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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:09:13 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:04:33 2012.

What do you think is causing the prices to rise? it's global demand for crude oil. how will your export tax reduce the price of crude oil?

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:11:53 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:03:20 2012.

The Illegitimate, Incompetent, Moronic ManBoy and his oil buddies caused the unnecessary death of thousands of America's best and the permanent maiming of tens of thousands more in addition to bankrupting the United States for their own greed while making us an international laughingstock and handing over an entire country to one of our biggest enemies in the process.

It's for THAT that they will never be forgiven by Americans everywhere.



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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:17:01 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:09:13 2012.

No! The US Oil companies are getting more for the refined product over seas than they are here.

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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:18:25 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:11:53 2012.

i don't thin the Oil industry profited from the war in Iraq(if they did it was because less oil was available on the global market). i think it was more military contractors than oil guys behind the war. sanctions would have been better for the oil guys since they'd have kept the oil off the market.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:18:28 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:09:13 2012.

You are asking questions about basic economic fundamentals in the commodities market to someone who has made his living in the Soviet System and never learned how the real world works.

He thinks raising such taxes or other protectionist measures are like raising the subway fare, that is something that can be done with the stroke of a pen with no adverse consequences on the real economy.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:19:01 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:11:53 2012.

I CALL


by the psychopathic ass hole that said this




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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:19:37 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:17:01 2012.

and if your stupid tax were put in place they'd just refine the product someplace else, costing American jobs.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:20:29 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:19:37 2012.

So now you run out of valid arguments so you have to start arguing like a girl?

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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:23:52 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:20:29 2012.

i made a valid argument in the post you were responding to, but i'll restate it.

if your tax were put in place oil companies would just refine the oil somewhere else, all that would do is cost American jobs.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:23:55 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:19:37 2012.

Exactly.

Plus they would close these same refineries that also produce for the domestic market.

We'd go from net exporter of refined products to net importer.

To that he'd probably then say "OK, so let's nationalize the refineries then".

Comrade Mao would be so proud of him.



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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:24:24 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:18:28 2012.

Attacking my job again, scumbag? It's Civil Service like a large percentage of the posters here are part of. So do you think people like NETO, Railman and dozens of others are all communists?

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:26:03 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:24:24 2012.

So do you think people like NETO, Railman and dozens of others are all communists?

They are not the ones who came up with your stupid idea.

YOU did.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:28:51 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:23:52 2012.

No, you said that if my stupid tax...........
I didn't denigrate you for your arguments even though I disagreed. The fact that you left "STUPID" out in this reply indicates that you knew exactly what I objected to.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:30:12 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:26:03 2012.

You were talking about the system in which we worked, you fucking moron. You can't even keep your own bullshit straight


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Posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:30:13 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:28:51 2012.

i didn't say you were stupid i said your tax was. smart people believe stupid things all the time.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:38:42 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 21:30:13 2012.

smart people believe stupid things all the time.

No, smart people believe stupid things SOME of the time.

Stupid people believe stupid things almost ALL of the time.

That's why they're stupid.

Train Dude is stupid.


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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 21:39:05 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 20 20:58:09 2012.

How is your contract working out? I was expecting you guys to have one by now, given the fact that a Democrat is in Albany, and you endorsed him.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:44:16 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 21:38:42 2012.

Yeah, I feel real stupid. Except when I see what poses for intelligence around here.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:44:48 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 21:39:05 2012.

It looked good on paper.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 20 22:37:05 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 21:20:29 2012.

That's an insult to girls.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 20 22:56:54 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 20 22:37:05 2012.

I suppose I over reacted as far as the girls go.

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Posted by WillD on Tue Feb 21 01:21:33 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 20 20:23:00 2012.

Pretty sure we do, but an F-15I would be hard pressed to get off the runway with 7000lbs more than its maximum warload slung under one pylon. Then again I wonder what a B-2 would go for on a wet lease.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 02:06:55 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by WillD on Tue Feb 21 01:21:33 2012.

Heh. And yep ... I'm aware of MOP, but even that isn't enough which is why they're building something a bit bigger, but it isn't ready yet.

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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 21 07:58:53 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by dand124 on Mon Feb 20 20:52:11 2012.

since the United States is a net importer restricting exports won't effect prices.

As of last year, the U.S. is a net exporter.

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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Feb 27 09:44:44 2012, in response to Re: Gas is going to record highs but I'm not worried, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 20:30:27 2012.

Your crystal ball is that good?

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