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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 12:47:23 2019, in response to AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 12:41:23 2019. You’re an idiot. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 10 12:49:04 2019, in response to AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 12:41:23 2019. The New Deal bailed out the country during the Depression and saved livesDid it save lives? Still open for debate. Kept the Depression going too. The stuff about Reagan is pure, unadulterated BS though. Funny to see AOC all over the place. She'll burn herself out real quick. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 12:59:17 2019, in response to AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 12:41:23 2019. AOC is exactly correct about home loans and the New Deal. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:02:21 2019, in response to AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 12:41:23 2019. Doing some great things is not incompatible with doing some racist things. See Thomas Jefferson.AOC chooses to emphasize only the racist, which is her annoying slant. That doesn't make her wrong about the facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 13:07:53 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:02:21 2019. I don’t necessarily agree with that. The only sources for AOC’s comment are Fox Propaganda and the New York Post. So it’s not clear at all what context it was said in. I highly doubt that someone who proposes something named after the New Deal would condemn the whole thing as racist. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 13:13:19 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 13:07:53 2019. I think it's astonishing how quickly the right has made AOC their monster hiding under the bed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 13:16:54 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 13:13:19 2019. What’s annoying is that I don’t like AOC, but I end up having to defend her because I also don’t like lies. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:17:07 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 13:13:19 2019. She's very useful to them. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:18:44 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 13:07:53 2019. Yeah, I fell into the trap of assuming the facts as presented by the right wing were true. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:26:37 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:17:07 2019. The right LOVES her. She's the bogeyman invented to scare mainstream America. Except they didn't have to invent her, she was elected. It's comical to watch Democrats try to minimize her while we can all see how popular and influential her and her views are. She was the rockstar at SXSW!All of this is hilarious to me as someone that doesn't really care whether AOC, Sanders, or Trump is in the whitehouse. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:28:25 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 13:07:53 2019. I saw it in the daily mail. The headline anyway. I didn't click. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:33:00 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:26:37 2019. Except they didn't have to invent her, she was elected.So were lots of really reprehensible Republicans members of Congress. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 13:34:07 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:26:37 2019. You don't "really care" who is in the White House, because nothing has happened yet that affects YOU personally.That will change, and so will your feelings about who our President is. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:35:01 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 13:33:00 2019. I don't know why you would compare her to someone reprehensible. That seems harsh. And you're once again trying to minimize her.Compare her to someone recently elected on the right that is an absolute rock star drawing huge crowds everywhere they go. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:41:29 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 13:34:07 2019. Of course things happen and will happen that affect me personally. That's no matter who is president. I'm not going to spend my time worrying about it like many here do. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 13:56:11 2019, in response to AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 12:41:23 2019. I never knew until today that some people considered FDR to be racist. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 14:05:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 13:56:11 2019. LOL! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 10 14:20:46 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 13:16:54 2019. And I love how she lives rent-free inside their heads. OCD |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 10 14:21:42 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 10 13:34:07 2019. Hey by the way, I didn't mean that stuff about your mother. I meant to say it about your father. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 10 14:29:10 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 13:56:11 2019. Oh? You seriously forgot about all the Jews fleeing the Nazis that were turned away by the FDR administration? How about those internment camps? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 10 14:43:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 10 14:29:10 2019. Pesky facts that are usually ignored by bingbong democrats |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 14:45:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 10 14:43:52 2019. Except that now it’s a Democrat who’s claiming that FDR was racist. You just can’t ever be consistent. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 10 14:50:46 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 14:45:34 2019. I made that claim years ago. You just have a selective memory |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 14:56:02 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 10 13:56:11 2019. Duh!He wasn't consistent. He probably wasn't personally racist but pandered to racists when it was expedient. For example, he could have ordered the military integrated, but didn't choose to spend personal capital on that issue. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 10 15:36:08 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:35:01 2019. You mean like Trump? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 15:38:31 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 10 14:50:46 2019. I don’t. You claim that Democrats are ignoring FDR’s racism when the whole thread is about a Democrat purportedly calling out FDR’s racism. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 15:41:51 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Dave on Sun Mar 10 15:36:08 2019. I think so, although the elected office positions are very different. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 15:53:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 13:35:01 2019. And you're once again trying to minimize her.Of course I am trying to minimize her. If her opponent hadn't been such an arrogant son of a gun she never would have been elected. Look at this list of new members of Congress. 2 radical leftists to augment maybe 5 who were there already. Big yawn. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 15:58:46 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 15:53:43 2019. And yet she was elected.She is one of the more significant freshxan members of Congress. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 16:02:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 15:53:43 2019. You know much more about political stuff than I do, but I think that you are out of step with the significance of what she represents to a lot of people all over the country. Especially people under 35. She's their voice. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:04:35 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 15:58:46 2019. Purely because of the attention she gets from Sanderistas and the right wing. It is to the advantage of those two groups, and only those two groups, to hype her. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:06:07 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 16:02:48 2019. She's the voice of leftists under 35 years old. What percentage of the electorate do they represent? I don't know, but my guess is 15%. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 16:11:23 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:06:07 2019. Could be, but they are growing and represent the future. And the future is coming fast. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 10 16:14:47 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:06:07 2019. There will be a lot more within the next 15 years. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:15:35 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 16:11:23 2019. We'll see. The Tea Party was the future 8 years ago. And they did way better in 2010 than the radical leftists did in 2018. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:21:05 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 10 16:14:47 2019. In yesterday's and today's posts, we have people claiming that radical leftists will take over, and that the Trumpists will solidify their control. Some people seem to be claiming both at the same time. I'll believe it when I see it, if I'm still alive. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 17:24:13 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:15:35 2019. The Tea Party became the T party. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 17:27:04 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 16:21:05 2019. Both are true. Moderates are dead. Note: I lament this state of affairs. I dislike anyone who thinks “capitalism” is a bad word. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 17:30:29 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 17:27:04 2019. Moderates are dead.The evidence of this remains very limited. Very few Democratic members of Congress call themselves Democratic Socialists. I do not think Warren or Sanders is a shoo-in for the nomination. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 10 17:35:56 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 17:27:04 2019. Unfortunately, many (most) of the clunkers on the Democratic side portray that view. And then there's Trump on the other side.I thought 2016 was a nightmare, but somehow 2020 looks worse. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 10 17:38:38 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 17:30:29 2019. There is no way I am voting for a Sanders or Warren typeI am not alone on that. And even with who's on the other side. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 17:48:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 10 17:35:56 2019. What is particularly bad about Klobuchar, Harris, Hickenlooper, Gillibrand,or Booker? They're not perfect, but what terrible things do they support?I agree that Sanders and Warren are quite far out to the left. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 18:07:23 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 17:48:52 2019. There were 17 candidates for the Republican Party this time 4 years ago, but somehow the single worst candidate won the nomination.It’s still early enough for the Democrats to do what they do best and drop the ball. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 18:20:06 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 10 18:07:23 2019. I don't think any of the current candidates can beat Trump and I think that he's very beatable.I'm not a Sandernista, but I hope that he wins as the crying on the right will be at least equal to the crying over Trump. World's coming to an end, etc. But what I think is that the election will split the Democratic Party unless someone charismatic enough to win comes forward. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 18:22:40 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 18:20:06 2019. I don't think any of the current candidates can beat Trump and I think that he's very beatable.So whom would you recommend? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 10 18:23:53 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 17:48:52 2019. They are all horrible, and as hated as Trump is, he'd have a good chance against any of those. And then there's DeBlasio. Lol. What are the Democrats thinking |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 10 18:24:41 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 18:22:40 2019. I don't see anyone good as of yet. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 18:25:32 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 10 18:23:53 2019. They are all horrible, and as hated as Trump isWhy? What have they done? Who hates Hickenlooper or Gillibrand? Or Klobuchar for that matter (other than her former staff)? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 10 18:30:06 2019, in response to Re: AOC Calls Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Racist, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 10 18:22:40 2019. I don't follow politics well enough to answer that. Maybe one of the ones running will surprise me.I think that a young firebrand like AOC could take him. Not her specifically of course. Or an elder statesman like Gore. |
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