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Nearly 90% of the Central American kids.... |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 25 22:51:58 2014 ....are being placed with relatives.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/us/migrant-children-texas-released-to-relatives.html |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 10:23:31 2014, in response to Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 25 22:51:58 2014. Giving comfort to the enemy. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 26 11:04:59 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 10:23:31 2014. boooooo |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 26 11:25:14 2014, in response to Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 25 22:51:58 2014. What about the MS-13 gangsters? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 26 11:29:20 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 10:23:31 2014. You are out of your mind. These are kids. They wouldn't have the focus to hold the block for an afternoon of play. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 26 12:06:32 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 26 11:04:59 2014. More your enemy than mine. |
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Posted by vfrt on Sat Jul 26 12:24:01 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 26 12:06:32 2014. Send the kids to Park Slope, Nantucket and the Upper West Side. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 26 12:29:38 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 10:23:31 2014. They're kids, not the enemy. If you were a mensch you would see that. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 12:36:57 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 10:23:31 2014. "Giving comfort to the enemy."What enemy? you fool! we are not at war for a bunch of kids who bear no arms.....you dope! they come here for the same reasons as those folks on the Mayflower did.......to RUN away from the VIOLENCE at home...... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 12:39:59 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by vfrt on Sat Jul 26 12:24:01 2014. OK....then what? you're just pissed that these kids don't resemble you......that they don't have the same skin color as you. I bet any amount of money if these kids came from Europe, you'd open every room in your one-room rent-controlled apartment to those kids. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 12:40:35 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 26 11:29:20 2014. "You are out of your mind."iawtp |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:03:46 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 10:23:31 2014. What enemy? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 26 13:05:03 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 12:36:57 2014. Heck, most are being sent away to relatves here through the fastest means their parents can find. It may be illegal, it may be dangerous although it seems less so than staying put, but it gets kids to safety.http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1207406 |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 13:11:01 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:03:46 2014. The people trying to get into his head :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 26 13:21:06 2014, in response to Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 25 22:51:58 2014. Many of those relatives are parents according to the article. And presumably they are also here illegally otherwise they would have brought their kids with them.Really what's the point of having a border anymore? Does it only exist to stop drug dealers, smugglers, and terrorists? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:13:16 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 26 12:29:38 2014. They are illegal alien invaders. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 26 16:27:05 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:13:16 2014. Once again you have proved you are a total idiot!!!!!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:28:42 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:03:46 2014. Foreigners. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 16:45:40 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:13:16 2014. "They are illegal alien invaders."So were your ancestors....... big deal |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 16:46:18 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:13:16 2014. "They are illegal alien invaders."The people on the Mayflower were also.....they were uninvited guests. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 16:47:10 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 26 16:27:05 2014. iawtp |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 16:49:06 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:28:42 2014. Yes...JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS. UNLESS THEY WERE NATIVE AMERICANS, THEY CAME HERE FROM FOREIGN COUNTRY(IES) .....ASSCLOWN. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 16:49:42 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 16:28:42 2014. MAKE SURE YOU PRESS YOUR KLAN OUTFIT TONIGHT FOR THE KKK MEETING. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 17:07:31 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 26 16:27:05 2014. WADL |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 17:08:50 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 16:49:06 2014. Typical liberal response. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 17:12:24 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 17:07:31 2014. 
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 17:13:00 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 17:08:50 2014. Typical hateful conservative response. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 26 20:39:20 2014, in response to Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 25 22:51:58 2014. Yea, relatives who probably don't pay taxes either. So, we are back to square one! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 20:47:13 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 26 20:39:20 2014. "Yea, relatives who probably don't pay taxes either."What taxes are those? income tax? lol......neither do the 1% in this country.....they live off the LOOPOLES that give them more money in their pocket. Those relatives pay SALES TAXES, GAS TAXES.....communication taxes(cell phones) and electric taxes(when they pay their bills) and they pay property taxes when they pay their rent. Learn from your MISTAKES! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 26 20:54:59 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 26 20:39:20 2014. How do you know? Chances are the majority are here legally |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 26 22:13:55 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 26 20:54:59 2014. If they are here legally and most of them are parents (according to your article) why would they leave their kids in their home country? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 26 22:25:34 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by Easy on Sat Jul 26 22:13:55 2014. To establish a home. Often one parent comes, the family follows in a year or two. It's far easier to acclimate kids to totally new surroundings when they can be brought into a stable situation.I would imagine a lot of these kids are from prior marriages as well. Parental rights still apply. |
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Posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 11:05:22 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 12:39:59 2014. Actually I own a 3-bedroom near Lighthouse Hill. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 11:20:46 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 11:05:22 2014. I bet any amount of money if these kids came from Europe, you'd open every room in your a 3-bedroom near Lighthouse Hill, SI to those kids. |
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Posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 13:41:06 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 11:20:46 2014. No I wouldn't. Americans have reached the end of their rope with illegal immigration. These kids must be sent back home to their home countries immediately. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 14:13:00 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 13:41:06 2014. "These kids must be sent back home to their home countries immediately."To a GANG ZONE? where they will be killed? and not be with their parents here in America? is that the REPUBLICAN way of dealing with it? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 14:48:41 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 13:41:06 2014. Most of them have family here. Including their parents. They should be reunited with them. Any others with a story to tell where they wee personally accosted, recruited or harangued by gangs is a refugee. Barring family, they should be placed in a sponsoring foster home until they are 18. Plenty of people are stepping up. Seems there's very little trouble integrating these kids once away from the haters and out of the limelight at the border.There were similar problems with the Mariel boatlift refugees. Very little is different here. Although there's probably fewer felons in the mix, Castro isn't exactly emptying the prisons into the mix. |
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Applying our Pro-Life Convictions to the Border Crisis |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 15:50:27 2014, in response to Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 25 22:51:58 2014. From the Huffingtonpost.com:Applying our Pro-Life Convictions to the Border Crisis Daniel Darling Vice President of Communications, The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. Posted: 07/24/2014 2:47 pm EDT Updated: 07/24/2014 2:59 pm EDT Perhaps there isn't a more gut-wrenching series of images than the ones of crowded detention centers filled with refugee children and their mothers, who risked life and limb to enter the U.S. Southern border and escape often volatile and violent conditions in places like Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador. Immigration is a complex issue, provoking passionate responses on all sides. There is genuine frustration with the federal government across many administrations and Congresses. Solutions seem varied, with people of good will on opposite sites of reform efforts. But I hope we can all agree to see the human side of this problem. As someone who has devoted much of my life to defending the sanctity of human life and the dignity of the family, I'm concerned about the rhetoric often employed when talking about these people, mostly children, who have recently crossed our borders illegally. Followers of Jesus believe in the dignity of every human life, from natural conception to natural death, regardless of their usefulness to society. This is why we recoil, in horror, at the savagery of Kermit Gosnell's abortion mill, we cheer when a legislator like Wendy Davis is defeated in her attempt to stop common-sense legislation that bans the killing of human life after twenty weeks. This is why we advocate for pro-life crisis pregnancy centers, many equipped with ultrasound technology that allows a mother to view the life within her womb at the earliest stages of development. This is also why we advocate for the dignity of developmentally disabled children, often tragically aborted on the altar of convenience. In Psalm 139, King David writes poignantly of his own conception. Each child, the psalmist reveals, was "knitted and formed" by the loving hands of the Creator. No child enters the world outside God's watchful eye. Our Christian faith demands that we view every single human life with infinite worth and dignity, created in the image of God. So it should disturb us to hear utilitarian arguments employed in the immigration debate. I've seen refugees described as "invaders," "aliens," even "lepers" intent on destroying our way of life. But each immigrant, regardless of their status, is a human being, created in the image of God. Especially children. It was Jesus who commanded us to "suffer the little children to come to me and forbid them not" (Matthew 19:14). Though many are here, desperately trying to escape the often-volatile conditions in their native countries, sober reality tells us that we can't save all the world's children; well-meaning compassion must be met with wise public policy. The government does have a right to secure its own borders. And yet those of us who take our pro-life convictions seriously should also guard against a kind of subtle utilitarianism. Followers of Jesus, who consider children a "heritage from the Lord" should view, with suspicion, arguments that label children as an obstacle to a flourishing civilization. This kind of America starts to sound less like the home of Lady Liberty and more like the home of Margaret Sanger. Well-meaning Americans will continue to disagree on the exact policy prescriptions for the border. But hopefully we can all agree to see each in each undocumented child, the image of the Creator. My hope is that followers of Jesus begin to see immigrants as less of a threat to their way of life and more of an opportunity to fulfill the Great Commission and be a part of God's sovereign plan to gather a people from every nation, tribe, and tongue (Rev 7:9; Rev 5:9). |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jul 27 16:03:32 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 14:13:00 2014. If their parents are here legally....the kid is not illegal. If their parents are illegal the kids have no right to be here any more than the parent |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jul 27 16:05:03 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 14:48:41 2014. Most of them have family here. Including their parents. They should be reunited with them.Not if the parents ate also here illegally. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 17:33:50 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jul 27 16:03:32 2014. If the kid can demonstrate a risk to their life from a gang, they're a refugee. They get to stay. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 17:35:10 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jul 27 16:05:03 2014. Apparently INS figures they'll sort that out later. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 27 18:12:56 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 17:35:10 2014. It's called ICE, not INS. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 18:18:38 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 27 18:12:56 2014. Whatever. |
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Re: Applying our Pro-Life Convictions to the Border Crisis |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 27 18:59:00 2014, in response to Applying our Pro-Life Convictions to the Border Crisis, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 15:50:27 2014. Yeah, but the problem is that they're already born. Once you are, you no longer matter to pro-lifers. :( |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Jul 27 19:07:59 2014, in response to Applying our Pro-Life Convictions to the Border Crisis, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 27 15:50:27 2014. I don't agree with religious fanatics like you that have to push you religion on other people "Jesus" has no baring on the government does or doesn't do. Religious fanatics like you have no place to push your religious beliefs on the govt. This has nothing to do with "Jesus". |
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Posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 20:02:06 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 17:33:50 2014. They come from chronically lawless countries. Unfortunate but that's the truth. They must go back. No one is fooled by this assault on our border. |
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Posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 20:03:11 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by streetcarman1 on Sat Jul 26 20:47:13 2014. It's spelled 'loopholes'. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 27 20:14:41 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by vfrt on Sun Jul 27 20:02:06 2014. If there are thugs out looking to harm them, which from what I've seen is the case, they stay. Going back is a death sentence. They are refugees. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 27 20:23:09 2014, in response to Re: Nearly 90% of the Central American kids...., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 26 17:08:50 2014. Being a typical response doesn't mean it's wrong.It just means you're predictable. |
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