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PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014 She claims that she accidentally brought a legally registered gun from Philly into NJ into NJ and now faces 3 years in Prison. Thoughts? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 09:55:09 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. Gun laws need to be federalized. It would be justified under protecting the right to keep and bear arms from overbearing state laws. |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jul 20 09:55:49 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. Where is the personal responsibility? It is common knowledge that every state has its own gun possession laws. If I legally owned a handgun I would check the laws of all of the states I expected to be with the handgun and all neighboring states. But hey, that is just me |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 10:01:20 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. The prosecutor and defendant should settle on a misdemeanor plea bargain with no jail term. IIRC that's what happened with the TN woman who brought a gun to the WTC. It's a crime but it doesn't deserve jail. |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 20 10:12:15 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 10:01:20 2014. With a probationary period, okay. That would prove the accidental nature as she claims, and put her behind bars if it turns out she lied, by doing it again.Anyone with a handgun permit should understand state laws differ and never take a handgun into another state to begin with. It's the best practice if you don't have all the facts. Err n the aide of caution. |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 11:00:53 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. Pretty careless gun ownership but not deserving of jail time. As Spider Pig points out, gun laws should be fertilized.your pal, Fred |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Jul 20 11:05:06 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. She was also carrying hollow point bullets according to the article. If true, there may be more to this than a simple mistake. This deserves a thorough investigation before any lenient plea deal is offered. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 11:14:16 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Jul 20 11:05:06 2014. Hollow point bullets are legal...except for in NJ IINM.your pal, Fred |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by Dand124 on Sun Jul 20 12:44:41 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Jul 20 09:55:49 2014. New Jersey has a history of this type of thing; there was a case a few year a where a man was flying with a gun between two airports where the gun was legal and New Jersey arrested him because his flight was diverted to Newark. |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 12:54:55 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. She claims that she accidentally brought legally purchased marijuana from Grand Junction into UT and now faces 3 years in Prison. Thoughts?It's bound to happen eventually. So what do you think the Utahan authorities should do? |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 13:10:27 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 12:54:55 2014. Marijuana laws should be fertilized also (I know I saw my other post) LOL. "Federalized"your pal, Fred |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:12:44 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 13:10:27 2014. No, they shouldn't. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 13:16:03 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:12:44 2014. Why not? Gun laws aye, drug laws nay? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 13:21:29 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:12:44 2014. I realize there's no Constitutional right to possess marijuana like there is to possess a firearm but its legality should be Federal.your pal, Fred |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 13:36:30 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 13:21:29 2014. There's no constitutional right to possess a firearm either.The Second Amendment says that a well-regulated militia has the right to keep weapons but it doesn't specify guns nor does it apply to random crazies. I think we can all agree that Timothy McVeigh did not have any right to possess a hydrogen bomb, so obviously the second amendment doesn't grant the right to any weapon and since it doesn't specify guns as permitted, they aren't. They can be legal, of course, but there's no constitutional right to own a gun. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:12:50 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 13:16:03 2014. Drugs aren't in the Constitution. Except in one case, but that was repealed. |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:15:55 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 13:21:29 2014. It should be removed from Schedule I and thus made legal federally, but states would be allowed to ban it. Like alcohol. |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 20 16:19:01 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:15:55 2014. Yes. |
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Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 16:19:26 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Dand124 on Sun Jul 20 12:44:41 2014. New Jersey is a pointless state that should be partitioned between NY and PA. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 16:28:25 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 16:19:26 2014. Neither PA nor NY would accept it. |
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Posted by Dand124 on Sun Jul 20 16:50:19 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Dand124 on Sun Jul 20 12:44:41 2014. here's some background on the case |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 17:10:07 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Dand124 on Sun Jul 20 16:50:19 2014. Stranded gun owners like Revell have the option of going to law enforcement representatives at an airport or to airport personnel before they retrieve their luggage. The careful owner will do so and explain his situation, requesting that his firearm and ammunition be held for him overnight.I would say, whatever you do, refuse to take possession of your luggage. Better to lose use of the luggage for a week than end up with a criminal record. If nothing else, eventually the airline will have to ship the luggage back to your home. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jul 20 17:45:25 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 20 11:00:53 2014. As Spider Pig points out, gun laws should be fertilized.With Miracle-Gro, or just compost? :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:18:45 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 16:19:26 2014. Why us/ Give it to Delaware. They could use the land. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:26:15 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 17:10:07 2014. "Interstate flight to avoid prosecution." ... 18 U.S.C. § 1073 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:28:03 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. I'll just leave this here then ...Republican ideology ... federal laws of unification should be abolished and the states should reign supreme. Toss her ass in the clink, it's the republican thing to do. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 18:29:44 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:26:15 2014. No. There's nothing to be prosecuted for if you don't take possession of your luggage. |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:54:03 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:12:44 2014. Then this is going to keep happening because ... state's rights. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:21:00 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 18:29:44 2014. All depends on how zealous law enforcement feels like about that. About 15 years ago, there was a story in the papers about some guy whose flight got diverted. Someone gave him a package to deliver to someone at his destination. Dumbass TOOK the package from the person and a few minutes later sniffed it and it smelled like weed.Dumbass put it down on a shelf, got on his connecting flight and went home. About a week later, DEA showed up at his door and arrested him under 1073 because the cameras at the airport picked him up putting the package down at the airport. He was sentenced to 3 years and did 1-1/2. So it really all depends ... |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 19:23:19 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:21:00 2014. But the guy in your story took possession. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:45:31 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 19:23:19 2014. And in your scenario, there would be a gun that is probably registered. Do you know how long it takes ATF to look that up these days? Now imagine if that suitcase was left on a subway platform instead. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 20:22:18 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. Yours is the only reply I've seen so far that has included childish partisan rhetoric. Congratulations, dan lawrence. |
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Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 20:29:34 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 13:36:30 2014. I would think the term "bear arms" isn't referring to anything else but firearms. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 20:32:46 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 13:36:30 2014. Unless nilet thinks it means that you can cut the arms off of bears. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 20:36:57 2014, in response to PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 09:49:03 2014. If it is illegal in Jersey she is guilty. However, motive is a big reason there is discretion in sentencing. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 20:43:30 2014, in response to Re: CO Woman Arrested For Pot Possession In UT, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 20:29:34 2014. False!I suspect you downstaters just see things a little differently. :) 
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 20:43:54 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 20 20:36:57 2014. I'm sure but with the minimum sentence being 3 years it could be hard to get around without a plea to a lesser charge |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 20 22:20:08 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 20 20:22:18 2014. GO TO HELL, TRAIN DUDE!!!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 22:24:00 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 20 22:20:08 2014. They already turned him away at the gate. Tried to stiff them for the fare. :) |
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Posted by Gamera on Sun Jul 20 23:01:52 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 20 22:20:08 2014. Why are you such a nasty prick? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:15:42 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 16:19:26 2014. PA can take the lower half. NY can take the upper half. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 21 00:28:08 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 20 22:20:08 2014. Why are you such a nasty prick, dan lawrence? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 21 01:02:21 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 16:19:26 2014. nah..we don't want it...tries too hard to be us..even stealing from us. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 08:25:43 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:15:42 2014. Nyah. Give it all to Delaware. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 08:48:57 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 08:25:43 2014. Nope. There are some things that are too important to give them. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 12:13:56 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 08:48:57 2014. Like what? Bsters? Pollution? Traffic?We've got wnough of them all, thank you. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 12:30:27 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 12:13:56 2014. Typo...that's mobsters |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 13:06:15 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 12:13:56 2014. one example: Port of NJ |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 13:31:16 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 13:06:15 2014. Which is operated by the Port Authority, which will just get a modification to its name. And may e that long necessary new tunnel. Nothing changes there. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 14:01:50 2014, in response to Re: PA Woman Arrested For Gun Possession In NJ, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 21 13:31:16 2014. Nope. Everything changes. DE would control part of the Port Authority instead of NY controlling the whole thing. |
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