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Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:22:48 2012 The democrats have shown themselves to be "Godless" by dropping the word "God" from their platform!I guess "One Nation Under God" and "In God we trust" have an uncertain future if the obamites are returned to sovereignty. In other news: "Democrats have dropped from their platform recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, a move that has opened President Barack Obama to criticism from Republican rival Mitt Romney. Four years ago Democrats stated unequivocally that "Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel." Well - his policy on Israel is evolving. |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 23:31:36 2012, in response to Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:22:48 2012. Actually, Castro did say "May God Bless You" in Spanish. LOL!!! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 23:56:32 2012, in response to Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:22:48 2012. Every administration since 1967, in both parties, had adopted the exact same position on Jerusalem as the DNC. Nothing new about it. I guess the Executive Branch has been ”evolving” on this for the past 43 years. |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:59:48 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 23:56:32 2012. Obviously, if you read the article, you'd know that was not true. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:04:26 2012, in response to Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:22:48 2012. Christ instructed us to feed the poor and cure the sick.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:11:18 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:04:26 2012. Yes, so how does that contradict what I posted? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 00:11:33 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:04:26 2012. Maybe the republicans filed a DCMA letter with the democrats over the use of their party's copyrighted leader. :) |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:14:27 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:11:18 2012. Actions speak louder than words.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:17:09 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:14:27 2012. So then they didn't drop the word "GOD" from their platform? |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 00:18:02 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:17:09 2012. They dropped the hyphenated word, "God-GIVEN" in one of the sentences. |
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Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:20:18 2012, in response to Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:22:48 2012. Dateline, Philadelphia, 1787 -- thereby showing America to be Godless. |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:22:59 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:17:09 2012. They did, according to the link you posted. My point is that it doesn't make them Godless. It's one thing to plaster the word "God" all over everything and it's another to actually follow what he said.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:31:55 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:20:18 2012. Your statement does not contradict mine. The demoncrats still dropped the word "GOD" from their platform. I was not seeking your justification for it as they don't need to justify it to me. However, Lincoln corrected any omission of a Creator in his Gettysburg Address Congress also affirmed it in 1954 when "One Nation Under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance and again in 1956 when "In God We Trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States. If you object to the word, GOD, however, I'd say you were in the right party. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:38:41 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:20:18 2012. By the way - "God" is mentioned in the constitutions each of the 50 states in our nation (Check it out). I don't know about the other 7 states :) |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 00:41:54 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 00:11:33 2012. Well ... since I was sitting on it and have better things to do with this machine, I'll just drop in the proff here:David Brody reports God's name has been removed from the Democratic National Committee platform. This is the paragraph that was in the 2008 platform: "We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-givenpotential." Now the words "God-given" have been removed. --- For the record: CBN.COM is Pat Robertson. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:41:57 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:38:41 2012. My point is simple, even for you. The omission of "God" from a political document says nothing about the religious beliefs of the authors, nor is it a predictor of the policy positions of the authors relating to faith matters. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 00:42:46 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:41:57 2012. Nor was the omission relevant. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:42:57 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:31:55 2012. I'm not justifying anything but pointing out the relative unimportance of talking the talk with regard to walking the walk. The GOP will make hay out of this and you know it and I'm pre-emptively diffusing it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:45:14 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:41:57 2012. And my comment should then be even easier for you to understand. The word "GOD" has been stricken from the democratic platform of 2012. Any questions? |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:46:54 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 00:41:54 2012. Also, they have not been merely removed, which implies someone set out to excise only the word "God-given" and left the rest of the sentence intact. The whole paragrah was completely re-written to emphasize different concepts. As Brody says:This is the paragraph that was in the 2008 platform: “We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.” Now the words “God-given” have been removed. The paragraph has been restructured to say this: “We gather to reclaim the basic bargain that built the largest middle class and the most prosperous nation on Earth – the simple principle that in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.” Brody further points out that there a long section on "faith" that was added: "Faith has always been a central part of the American story, and it has been a driving force of progress and justice throughout our history. We know that our nation, our communities, and our lives are made vastly stronger and richer by faith and the countless acts of justice and mercy it inspires. Faith- based organizations will always be critical allies in meeting the challenges that face our nation and our world – from domestic and global poverty, to climate change and human trafficking. People of faith and religious organizations do amazing work in communities across this country and the world, and we believe in lifting up and valuing that good work, and finding ways to support it where possible. We believe in constitutionally sound, evidence-based partnerships with faith-based and other non-profit organizations to serve those in need and advance our shared interests. There is no conflict between supporting faith-based institutions and respecting our Constitution, and a full commitment to both principles is essential for the continued flourishing of both faith and country." |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:47:01 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:42:57 2012. It's like anything else in politics, these days. You make of an issue what you can. Both parties do it. Tonight, this made the news. |
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Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:47:44 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:45:14 2012. Yes, teacher, I have a question! So what? |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:48:11 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:46:54 2012. SO then, the article is wrong and the word "GOD" is in the platform. Geez................ |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:49:03 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:48:11 2012. No, the simple point again is, so what? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:50:22 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:49:03 2012. ??????????? Ask the liberal media. They are the ones who are writing about it. I'd have never known otherwise. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 00:50:25 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:47:01 2012. I know, it's not out of the ordinary by any means.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:52:19 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 00:50:22 2012. Never saw this in the liberal media.And if you are so neutral about it, why did you state in the OP - "The democrats have shown themselves to be "Godless" by dropping the word "God" from their platform!" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:55:28 2012, in response to Re: Founders Drop ''GOD'' From Their Constitution, posted by Italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:20:18 2012. The only thing you're showing yourself to be is a Nazi. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:56:16 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:55:28 2012. When at a loss for ideas (which seems to be all day every day with you), resort to name-calling. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:58:31 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:56:16 2012. Thanks for teaching me how to do ad hominems so effectively!You would prefer a mention of God in the Constitution and thereby an implication of establishment of state religion? |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 01:00:14 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:58:31 2012. I prefer no such thing. The only point was that I already made to Train Dude:The omission of "God" from a political document says nothing about the religious beliefs of the authors, nor is it a predictor of the policy positions of the authors relating to faith matters. |
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Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 01:00:53 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 5 00:55:28 2012. LOL!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:05:40 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:46:54 2012. Didn't want to go that far with so many blood vessels to break here ... I noted that most of the right wingnut bloggers never got past the first sentence, much less the longer second one.I wonder how God feels about the severity of all the bullshit from the party that claims that He approves all they do? :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:07:58 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 00:52:19 2012. Duh, the word Godless was in quotes - not to be taken literally. Now on the other hand, if this is so unimportant, why are you making such a big deal about it? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 01:09:09 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:05:40 2012. God is sad. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 01:10:27 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:07:58 2012. Oh? Is that why you went on to say :"I guess "One Nation Under God" and "In God we trust" have an uncertain future if the obamites are returned to sovereignty." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:15:22 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 01:09:09 2012. I'm thinking a red button ... :)
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:17:06 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:15:22 2012. Not all Repubs deserve that now.. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:18:35 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 5 01:10:27 2012. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:20:20 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:18:35 2012. In other words Being a chit Stirrer?? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:20:58 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:20:20 2012. Just putting on the "rubber nose" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 01:21:04 2012, in response to Democrats Drop "GOD" From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 23:22:48 2012. FUCKIN' A!A world without God is a better world. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:22:28 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:17:06 2012. Good thing I'm not a vengeful ghod, eh?Smite! :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 5 01:23:05 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''GOD'' From Their Platform, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 5 01:21:04 2012. but the Hispanic candidate did mention God. more proof that I was right during the Tebow fiasco. That liberals feel whites are idiots when they bring up God but minorities are free to do so. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:23:23 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:22:28 2012. South Bronx>North Bronx:D |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 01:23:39 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 5 01:22:28 2012. You're just being smiteful.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:25:07 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:20:58 2012. Why am i not surprised? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:26:35 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 5 01:23:39 2012. I dont think any of you have a Smiteful bone in yer body.. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:27:12 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:25:07 2012. That's how the game is played, right? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 5 01:28:47 2012, in response to Re: Democrats Drop ''God-given'' From Their Platform, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 5 01:27:12 2012. I dont see how anyone who posts here takes anyone seriously BUT.....:D |
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