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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:05:41 2012 (because he ordered the kill but didn't personally carry it out), THEN...Does this mean Osama isn't responsible for 9/11... (Because he ordered the attacks but didn't personally carry them out)? [Credit addicting Info]. GOP-think makes my brain hurt. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 19 10:16:40 2012, in response to If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:05:41 2012. As C-in-C, President Obama HAD to have given the order to proceed with the mission. They were all there in the situation room as it happened. It clearly came from the top down. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:23:37 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 19 10:16:40 2012. Yes, it did. But Republicans are playing the word-humping game, trying to make it look like Obama is taking credit for something he "didn't actually do".By their logic, then, I could hire a hit man to kill my enemy (whoever he may be), equip and train him to carry out the killing, and order him to go out and do it, but NOT be guilty of murder-for-hire. After all, I didn't carry out the actual killing myself, did I? This kind of twisted GOP logic makes me crazy. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 19 10:27:30 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:23:37 2012. I'd love to see them blaming bush for something he didn't do...act upon that Aug 6 memo and possibly prevent 9/11 to begin with. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 10:43:13 2012, in response to If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:05:41 2012. Osama planned, funded, and directed. Obama allowed. There is a difference when you say "I did."And, of course, it's mockery of "You didn't build that." |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 19 11:20:31 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 10:43:13 2012. Did you build the road outside your business? Of course not. Did you build the network (hint: a Democratic President in the 1990s passed a tax break that encouraged it) we're on right now? Or the building your shop is located in? Or the drainage system that protects your inventory in the basement from being flooded?NO. Someone else did. Sometimes it's another company, sometimes the government. We are all interconnected. Get over it. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 11:30:35 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 10:43:13 2012. Uh-huh. Guess what, Obama's government also planned, funded and directed. Epic fail on your part.And if you go back and watch his full announcement on the killing (instead of the edited GOP short version), you will see he credited 10 years of planning and intelligence work for the kill. And yes, that 10 years goes back into the Bush administration. So he spread the credit all around, where it is due. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 11:41:21 2012, in response to If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:05:41 2012. Not only that. If you remember, his opposition was much more focused on matters less than trivial.
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 11:57:45 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 19 11:20:31 2012. Obama would have been better off if he added one word to his rant: "alone ."But there is more to it than that. I'm also a regular listener to NPR, and well before Obama's speech they were setting up the theory that those who do well (they were particularly talking about inventions) didn't do anything special; they were just lucky. On topic to SubChat, you could say that of the electric streetcar. It was so obviously needed that many inventors worked on it. But Sprague made it technically and commercially viable in all kinds of conditions and all kinds of weather, and he proved it. This is why Sprague is the father of electric railways and rapid transit, not Siemens or Van Depoele. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 11:58:54 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 11:41:21 2012. Who is killing now? He still hasn't released any transcripts of his college career, |
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Posted by DAND124 on Sun Aug 19 12:01:05 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:23:37 2012. if Obama gets credit for things federal agents do right then he also gets blame for thing they do wrong. yet when i blame him for those i get attacked. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:01:50 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 11:58:54 2012. lol. No one gives a shit about Obama's transcripts or Romney's tax returns aside from people whose minds are already made up. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:03:51 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by DAND124 on Sun Aug 19 12:01:05 2012. The difference is obvious if you aren't a moron. This was a high level action that he personally tracked and authorized. You blame him for low level events that there's no way that he would have been aware of, much less involved prior to them happening. |
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Posted by DAND124 on Sun Aug 19 12:07:35 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:03:51 2012. but he appointed the people who did were directly responsible therefore for he was ultimately responsible. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 12:08:55 2012, in response to If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:05:41 2012. This has to be your worst post since "Egypt Revolts". You're comparing the execution of a terrorist to the deaths of innocents in the WTC?!?!? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:09:30 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by DAND124 on Sun Aug 19 12:07:35 2012. That's so retarded that I don't even feel like debating it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 19 12:11:05 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by DAND124 on Sun Aug 19 12:07:35 2012. Given the massive number of appointments held up in the Senate, you'd have to prove that the midlevel appointee isn't a holdover from the last bunch. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 19 12:12:45 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 10:43:13 2012. He didn't even allow, he merely continued a Bush policy: kill Osama on sight. It was probably the easiest presidential decision since Roosevelt decided to ask Congress to declare war on Japan on December 8, 1941. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 12:14:21 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 19 12:08:55 2012. The comparison is accurate, though. If the GOP claims Obama didn't deserve credit for the OBL raid because others carried it out per his orders, then so, too, by their logic, OBL isn't responsible for 9/11. Can't have it both ways. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 12:36:38 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 19 12:12:45 2012. Yeah, right. There wasn't even a certainty Osama was in the house. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Aug 19 15:05:35 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:09:30 2012. Agreed! |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Aug 19 15:08:38 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 10:23:37 2012. Yes, it did. But Republicans are playing the word-humping game, trying to make it look like Obama is taking credit for something he "didn't actually do".That's because the operation was successful. Had it gone horribly wrong, it would've been all President Obama's fault. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 17:44:53 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:01:50 2012. I want to see what kind of businessman Romney is/was.I know what kind of President Obama is so only an idiot needs to see college transcripts. What's Romney hiding? Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 17:59:28 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 12:36:38 2012. Why didnt Bush get bin Laden?Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 18:04:14 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 11:58:54 2012. Who cares? He's already been President.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:08:16 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 17:44:53 2012. IAWTP |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:09:30 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 11:58:54 2012. Like we should care? OTOH, Romney's tax returns have a direct bearing on his claims to be a problem-solving businessman. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:13:33 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 17:59:28 2012. Cause under all the tough-guy rhetoric, he was a pussy. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 19 18:15:45 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 17:59:28 2012. Shit, did you catch Bush's reaction to bin Laden's killing? The asshole was BEREAVED!!! He lost a FAMILY FRIEND I call the GOP Nazis because they ARE CONNECTED TO the Nazis of the Third Reich as well as al Qaeda. Idiot suckholes like Mr. MaBSTOA need to study the connections between the NSDAP, the GOP and al Qaeda. Here's a couple keywords for Google:"Prescott Bush Nazi Germany" "Afghan mujahideen bin Laden" "Reagan 1980 Campaign Iran Hostage Crisis" Republicanism and it's corrupt ideology should be declared CRIMINAL and it's adherents given a chance to recant their former ideology and lose the right to vote. Their connection to all of the major world evils of the last hundred years except communism should PROVE that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be a Republican and a good member of the human race, let alone a good American Citizen. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 19 18:17:16 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 17:44:53 2012. Romney's tax returns won't show what kind of businessman he was. They'll show how he's invested the money that he earned as a businessman, that's all. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:19:39 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by AlM on Sun Aug 19 18:17:16 2012. And they'll show what kinds of loopholes he exploited, which is relevant to his ideas on tax reform. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 19 18:26:02 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by AlM on Sun Aug 19 18:17:16 2012. it shows if he is Tax evader and a criminal like Al Capone. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 18:41:36 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:08:16 2012. And my point has been validated. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 18:47:28 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 10:43:13 2012. You're kidding ... right?So Nancy Pelosi gets credit too for funding it? :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 19 18:55:47 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 19 18:13:33 2012. That could be, but bin Laden was worth more alive to Bush than dead.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 18:57:00 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by WayneJay on Sun Aug 19 15:08:38 2012. Like Carter's failure to properly repair that helicopter motor in Iran while it was in flight. :-\ |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 19:00:29 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 19 18:26:02 2012. There's a simple solution. If that's what worries you, then don't vote for him. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 19:17:16 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 19 11:58:54 2012. Hmmm ... Romney's birth certificate ... has we seen it? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 19:21:20 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 19 12:14:21 2012. Olog doesn't DO logic. He only does propaganda and the finger pointing it demands. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Aug 19 20:50:50 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 12:03:51 2012. The difference is obvious if you aren't a moronAnd therein lies the rub :) **sits back and watched that sail over Dand's head :) |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Aug 19 20:53:55 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 19:21:20 2012. +1,000,000,000,000,000 |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Aug 19 20:54:35 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by AlM on Sun Aug 19 18:17:16 2012. It can give you a hint about his character. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 19 20:56:01 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Aug 19 20:53:55 2012. 
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Aug 19 21:23:09 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Easy on Sun Aug 19 19:00:29 2012. That's 2 of us. Last time I voted for a Republican was in the 60's. I live in a city that got rid of the last Republican in the City Council in the election of 1943!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 19 21:32:08 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Aug 19 21:23:09 2012. Well, I guess that if you've not learned your lesson by now, you never will. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 20 07:53:52 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 19 21:32:08 2012. I will NEVER vote for a Republican as long as I live. Reagan converted the party to the party of NO. Dwight Eisenhower was a Republican who could get both parties to work together. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 20 08:16:18 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 19 12:12:45 2012. He didn't even allow, he merely continued a Bush policy: kill Osama on sight. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Aug 20 08:28:02 2012, in response to Re: If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama..., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 20 08:16:18 2012. Good correction.Mr. Twistory strikes again :) your pal, Fred |
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