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Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 13:10:30 2012 What about spending time legislating things that are in fact problems? |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Aug 12 13:15:33 2012, in response to Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 13:10:30 2012. Because if they addressed problems that were actual problems then they wouldn't be Republicans, they'd be Democrats. See Freedom Fries.Oh, and "fixing" this particular non-issue allows them to disenfranchise thousands of likely Democratic voters who lack the documents these modern day Jim Crow laws require. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 12 13:25:24 2012, in response to Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 13:10:30 2012. Shows how little actual need there is for ID laws like the republicans are all in a bunch about (those laws would not have prevented the examples in the article, either). They are all about disenfranchising voting populations that typically don't vote in the manner the republicans wish. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 12 13:47:34 2012, in response to Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 13:10:30 2012. I wonder by whose data, the people who do it, or some random foundation?I love this new liberal joke of the day. Demonkkkrats are in trouble it looks like. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 12 14:23:33 2012, in response to Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 13:10:30 2012. Um:It is a problem #1 It is a problem #2 It is a problem #3 How about you stop shitposting left-wing propaganda meant to defend Democratic/Liberal voter fraud? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 14:28:14 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 12 13:47:34 2012. Any Gutless pig who stops a legal voter from voting should be executed for Treason. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 12 14:28:32 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 12 13:47:34 2012. Notice they said "Election Day" impersonation. Nothing about affidavit ballots. My mother gets her ballot mailed to her in late October. I often joke that she should give it to me because she really doesn't care anymore. I could EASILY vote twice and no one would be the wiser.Every dead voter on the rolls is an opening for a fraudulent ballot to be constructed. And I've seen it done in NYC! |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 14:34:40 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 12 14:23:33 2012. Source 2: "Still, David Becker, director of Pew’s Election Initiatives, said that the center’s findings did not suggest any kind of voter fraud or voter suppression from these problems, but noted they do “underscore the need for an improved system.”"As for the others, the presence of dead voters on the registration rolls isn't a major problem if no one tries to show up to impersonate those people. Should those people be removed from the rolls? Absolutely. But requiring ID isn't the solution for that problem based on current experience. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 12 14:36:19 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 14:34:40 2012. As for the others, the presence of dead voters on the registration rolls isn't a major problem if no one tries to show up to impersonate those people. Should those people be removed from the rolls? Absolutely. But requiring ID isn't the solution for that problem based on current experience.But the point is, anyone can just show up and say they are those people, and vote. With ID, that couldn't happen. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 14:41:40 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 12 14:36:19 2012. Anything to throw the election so the Nazis can fuck the country up for good. As I posted earlier, stopping a legal voter from voting should be capital treason. No "Black Mass" pig funeral either. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 12 14:43:27 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 12 14:36:19 2012. Hardly anyone seems to be trying to evade the system. Instead, it seems like it would be better to find a way to identify ineligible voters some other way and remove them each cycle, as opposed to creating a hurdle for eligible voters to get past to be able to vote on Election Day. |
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Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, biased sources show |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 12 14:48:00 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 12 14:36:19 2012. News21 is all colleges. No credibility. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 12 15:07:44 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 12 14:28:32 2012. Last 3 elections there'd been people in retirement communities reporting that democratic operatives knock door to door to 'collect' their ballots, only to have them vanish.Then there was the election in MN with Frankin, where ballots magically kept turning up under car seats and all sorts of places. And then since birth, on every TV news channel and every newspaper, everyday before and after the election, there are the stories of fraud, and all the dead who vote, people who don't speak english get 'translators' to accompany them, bums getting picked up in boozes for free booze, Harry Reid's free bbq, park benches being used as address in Iowa, But NOW that Obama is in office, asking for an ID is racial discrimination. All of a sudden 100's of years of fraud per the media and Doonesbury doesn't exist. I GET ASKED FOR MY DRIVERS LICENSE AT THE #%##% LIBRARY! "they must think you're stupid" - Barry Obama. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Aug 12 15:08:28 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 14:28:14 2012. Last 3 elections there'd been people in retirement communities reporting that democratic operatives knock door to door to 'collect' their ballots, only to have them vanish.Then there was the election in MN with Frankin, where ballots magically kept turning up under car seats and all sorts of places. And then since birth, on every TV news channel and every newspaper, everyday before and after the election, there are the stories of fraud, and all the dead who vote, people who don't speak english get 'translators' to accompany them, bums getting picked up in boozes for free booze, Harry Reid's free bbq, park benches being used as address in Iowa, But NOW that Obama is in office, asking for an ID is racial discrimination. All of a sudden 100's of years of fraud per the media and Doonesbury doesn't exist. I GET ASKED FOR MY DRIVERS LICENSE AT THE #%##% LIBRARY! "they must think you're stupid" - Barry Obama. **** PS, there should be a test to vote looking at some of the people here |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 15:24:49 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 12 14:36:19 2012. It doesn't happen now. And ID causes many legitimate voters to be disenfranchised, which is an empirical fact. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 15:31:01 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 15:24:49 2012. That's the plan, to disenfranchise voters who would likely vote Democratic.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 15:35:08 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 15:31:01 2012. Absolutely. Stated baldly as the plan by the Pennsylvania GOP chairman. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 15:43:36 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 15:35:08 2012. The GOP will do anything to attain/retain power other than simply get enough votes.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 12 15:51:10 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 15:43:36 2012. Their policies won't do it. Guess they'll do whatever. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 15:56:16 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 15:43:36 2012. This is why you vote STRAIGHT Democratic. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 16:03:07 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 12 15:51:10 2012.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 16:05:52 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 15:31:01 2012. iawtp |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 16:16:35 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by WillD on Sun Aug 12 13:15:33 2012. So you're saying that Democratic voters are hiding something but not having ID or are they just to stupid to get ID? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 16:27:06 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 16:16:35 2012. you still have refused to answer the question ...do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 16:27:45 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 16:03:07 2012. iawtp |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 16:32:41 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 16:16:35 2012. No, the Nazis just get their pigs to harass poor voters who have good reason not to trust pigs. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:14:08 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 16:27:06 2012. Several days ago you alluded to sending someone to my job and that I promised this person I wouldn't bother you anymore.As I was speaking to this person about you he informed me that the reason you are against the gay marriage issue is because when you went to prison a big dude with an attitude wanted to play play with you. You yourself said in here that I promised this person I wasn't going to bother you anymore, do you remember that? |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:15:24 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 16:32:41 2012. I don't think the Nazi's had any rules against eating pork even though Hitler was a vegeterian. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:16:28 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 16:27:45 2012. You must have some sort of ID!!You drive a car, are enrolled in Medi-Cal and who knows what else (EBT card)? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:31:15 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:16:28 2012. you still have refused to answer the question ...do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:31:25 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:14:08 2012. you still have refused to answer the question ...do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:33:47 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:14:08 2012. I.D. this person or STFUyou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:35:21 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:14:08 2012. does thios SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / heryou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:43:41 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:15:24 2012. you still have refused to answer the question ...do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 17:56:52 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:14:08 2012. does this SOMEONE as you stated have a name ? name him / heryou still have refused to answer the question ... do you have proof i was arrested and sent to jail? where and when ? proof proff |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 18:02:09 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by mr mabstoa on Sun Aug 12 17:16:28 2012. In many states with ID laws, Medicare or EBT cards are not good enough. Or even student IDs issued by state (!) universities. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 18:02:57 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 18:02:09 2012. that is true |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 18:14:19 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 18:02:09 2012. If folks have to pay for an ID it amounts to a poll tax.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 12 18:14:46 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 18:14:19 2012. iawtp |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 12 19:23:08 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, biased sources show, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 12 14:48:00 2012. LOL! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 12 19:24:05 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 18:14:19 2012. Yes, it does. The courts will overturn those eventually. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 19:40:47 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 18:14:19 2012. Maybe we should have a national ID that can be free based on need. I don't believe that voter fraud is a serious problem, but we could end the speculation by having an ID. It seems perfectly reasonable in the modern world. Very few people don't have an ID. Do you know anyone that doesn't have an ID? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:00:31 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 19:40:47 2012. Thats the whole point...who doesnt have ID? You need it for just about anything nowadays. If b the off chance someone doesnt have one...have a free federal one people can get....at someplace like their local post office or something. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 12 20:02:03 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 19:40:47 2012. Mandate that non-driver IDs be free. They can still charge for permits and licenses, obviously. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 12 20:02:59 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, biased sources show, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 12 14:48:00 2012. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:09:42 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 12 20:02:03 2012. Exactly!!!! Or to make it even easier....a free id they can get at their local post office ofr something. Its not a big deal like its made out to be. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 12 20:19:17 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 12 20:02:03 2012. The only problem with free is that if there's no penalty/cost associated, people will frequently lose them and not worry because they can replace them for free. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 12 20:20:17 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 12 20:02:03 2012. Mandate that non-driver IDs be free. They can still charge for permits and licenses, obviously.Wouldn't its being free already be mandated by the 24th amendment? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 12 20:30:45 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:09:42 2012. Not a bad idea as long as it's federal. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 12 20:31:04 2012, in response to Re: Election Day impersonation, an impetus for voter ID laws, a rarity, data show, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 12 20:20:17 2012. Then why are people complaining here? |
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