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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:36:20 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:28:15 2012. Yeah. PPP and Quinnipiac are the only sources to be trusted because Nate Silver says so. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:37:10 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:36:20 2012. Heh. There are plenty of others. Seriously, read the site before you go full Train Dude ... or not. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:39:55 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:37:10 2012. BUt those are the sources for the swing states for NC, VA and FLA.Any poll not showing a tie in NC should not be trusted. It's going to be close there. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:42:31 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:39:55 2012. Read his methodology. He doesn't include any "nationwide" polls, only ones done state by state. He explains everything about his methods, his math and the pollsters themselves. Even has graphs of it all ... and he's been dead on every year ... he still has the proff on his site too for each of them. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:45:25 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:42:31 2012. BTW ... there's also been a terrible dearth of polls this year. Seems even the pollsters don't give a shit anymore. Check the dates when most of those polls were done last. :)Hover over each state for quick details, go hit the links on the page for the annoying details on each. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:51:27 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:45:25 2012. I know. I'm just not going to believe anyone who says NC is anything but a tie. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:56:58 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:51:27 2012. Relax ... polls might start to actually mean something by the end of batshit month. Even the pollsters are on the down low right now with nothing for days on end. :)But if you wanna see the numbers, that's the place to go. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 07:21:39 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 06:45:25 2012. I've been reading about the guy who runs this website that does not like Rasmussen.He is ashamed to be an American and lives abroad. Rasmussen is a devout Christian, so I can see where some of the anger is coming from. I don't remember too many mistakes by Quinnipiac and Rasmussen last time. Indiana had to surprise a few people. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 08:31:13 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 06:10:06 2012. See? There you go. I think 61% could care less about CFA. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 08:38:20 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 20:05:09 2012. Exactly. And of those 3 the state that is most likely to go for Obama is OH. I really doubt any scenario where Obama loses Ohio but still wins the election. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 9 10:41:03 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 05:52:26 2012. Mitt Romney has no credible path towards an electoral majority.He might pull off OH if he taps Portman but lose everywhere else. He may pull off FL if he taps Rubio but lose everywhere else. Those two are the safest picks though Rubio would be interested only if the possibility of victory is real. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 11:04:21 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 9 10:41:03 2012. Historically, VP candidates provide an actual 2 point bump in their home state.He might get FL with Rubio, but that pick comes with waaay too much baggage to explain away. Won't matter anyway, NH is the tipping point. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:29:13 2012, in response to Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 8 17:36:34 2012. You expecting people to be surprised about that? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:32:10 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by mr mabstoa on Wed Aug 8 19:18:06 2012. Don't worry about what "Wrong-Again-Dan" says. |
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D+11: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:40:30 2012, in response to Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 8 17:36:34 2012. Sample sample sample.To put it in perspective, in 2008, a record year for Dem turnout, the vote was D+9. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:44:18 2012, in response to D+11: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:40:30 2012. Well, that shoulda been obvious. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:49:45 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:44:18 2012. Not as bad as last week's Pew poll, which was D+19, giving Obama an 11 point lead. Polls are pretty much acting like German generals towards the end of the war, afraid of telling Hitler the truth and doing everything possible to entertain his deluded visions of victory.Now the flip side of this is that Obama has taken a 1 point lead over Romney with the only pollster using a fair sample of likely voters (Rasmussen), the first time in a month. But to put even THAT into perspective, Gallup had Kerry ahead in August 2004, Dukakis ahead in August 1988 and Carter ahead in August 1980. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 11:51:54 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:49:45 2012. LOL!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:52:31 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 11:51:54 2012. What's so funny? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:53:38 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:52:31 2012. Probably the old "laughing on the outside, crying on the inside" thingamabob. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 11:58:18 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 11:51:54 2012. I like to laugh when a known liar lies. Just me.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 11:59:11 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:53:38 2012. No, just laughing. Outside and inside. Chris made a really really funny joke there. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 12:00:18 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:53:38 2012. No, was laughter from within. A belly laugh even.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 12:04:29 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 12:00:18 2012. Why would a 7 point lead on a D+11 poll make you laugh? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 12:07:01 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:32:10 2012. he told the truth ! |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 12:07:02 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 12:04:29 2012. What's funny is that you think we're dumb enough to believe your bullshit.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 12:07:31 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 12:07:01 2012. Then why the LOL at him? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 12:18:50 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 12:07:31 2012. LOL |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 12:19:16 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 12:18:50 2012. Are you laughing at me or with me? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 14:51:49 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 12:19:16 2012. ZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 16:55:38 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 14:51:49 2012. I know, I know.Thens its ??, then LOL, then zzzzzzzz. For a Minister you vocabulary is very limited. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 18:04:57 2012, in response to Re: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 07:21:39 2012. Heh. Yeah ... that's the ticket. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 19:09:14 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 11:51:54 2012. Gotta love these guys ... they think the popular vote wins. Ask Al Gore how that works out. :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 19:24:44 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 16:55:38 2012. ?? |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 23:45:57 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 9 19:24:44 2012. I was right!Next LOL.. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 10 02:19:57 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 23:45:57 2012. you were what ? LOL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 10 09:03:47 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 10 02:19:57 2012. A bitter sullenn obsesssied douchbag who's a tetired transhit manager living on an inlat ed pension. Tat shhhhhhhuould sum iiiiit up. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 10 12:40:56 2012, in response to Re: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 10 09:03:47 2012. ok i see your point |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 13 11:35:46 2012, in response to Re: D+11: Al-Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 9 11:53:38 2012. Probably the old "laughing on the outside, crying on the inside" thingamabob.Try crying on the outside from laughing so hard. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 13 11:41:30 2012, in response to D+11: Reuters/Ipsos: Obama 49, Romney 42, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 11:40:30 2012. Sample sample sample.Weighted weighted weighted. |
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