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POTUS creates African-American education office |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 26 08:42:16 2012 Associated Press
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:05:52 2012, in response to POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 26 08:42:16 2012. I think that may be unConstitutional? To create an office specifically for one race or ethnicity? |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jul 26 09:39:49 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:05:52 2012. You need to think more progressively. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:45:39 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Charles G on Thu Jul 26 09:39:49 2012. Oh, Progressive is Our Most Important Product. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 26 09:46:55 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:05:52 2012. We already have a Bureau of Indian Affairs. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 26 09:49:12 2012, in response to POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 26 08:42:16 2012. What about Hispanics? Aren't they doing just as bad? |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:52:57 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 26 09:46:55 2012. From the Bureau of Indian Affairs website."The United States has a unique legal and political relationship with Indian tribes and Alaska Native entities as provided by the Constitution of the United States, treaties, court decisions and Federal statutes. Within the government-to-government relationship, Indian Affairs provides services directly or through contracts, grants, or compacts to 566 Federally recognized tribes." The U.S. has a special relation to recognized Native American tribes as sovereign entities mostly as a matter of history and treaty obligations. It applies to Indian tribes as entities, not individual Native Americans as an ethnicity. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:03:57 2012, in response to POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 26 08:42:16 2012. They're separate but equal! Well, not really, apparently they're separate because they need special education! |
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Re: Obama endorses Jimmy Crow |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:04:10 2012, in response to POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 26 08:42:16 2012. They're separate but equal! Well, not really, apparently they're separate because they need special education! |
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Re:POTUS creates African-American education office |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 10:08:46 2012, in response to Re: Obama endorses Jimmy Crow, posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:03:57 2012. They're separate but equal! Well, not really, apparently they're separate because they need special education!Jim Crow has nothing to do with this but... They should be for even having a unit like that.. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 26 10:35:24 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:05:52 2012. Imagine if a president created a White Education office.... |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 26 13:46:00 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 09:52:57 2012. From the Office of Indian Education website:The mission of the Office of Indian Education is to support the efforts of local educational agencies, Indian tribes and organizations, postsecondary institutions, and other entities to meet the unique educational and culturally related academic needs of American Indians and Alaska Natives so that these students can achieve to the same challenging state standards as all students. Sounds like it's for native Americans everywhere. Not saying that I agree with Obama, just that there's precedent. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 14:11:39 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 26 13:46:00 2012. I'm not sure if there's precedent or not. And if you can extend it to African-Americans as a group, why not other groups?And then there's the question of "Who's an Indian, who's an African-American." If someone lives on a reservation and is accepted by the tribe as a member of the tribe, that is probably sufficient, remembering that Indian land is considered sovereign. From there it gets complicated. An Indian tribe seems to have the freedom to say who can live on their reservation and be extended the status of a member of their tribe. Can you imagine the playground for politicians who could have the power to decide if someone were a member of "their" ethnic/racial community or not, where benefits are concerned? |
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Re: POTUS creates African-American education office |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jul 26 22:09:26 2012, in response to Re: POTUS creates African-American education office, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 26 14:11:39 2012. When has any student had to prove what race they were? I think that they just take you at your word. And despite all of the perceived advantages, you won't find many students of other races claiming to be black. |
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