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Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 18 10:43:10 2012

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Tell me again how this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure isn't deliberately fostering a culture of government dependency ...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/americans-joining-disability-outpaces-americans-finding-jobs_648660.html

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 18 10:46:15 2012, in response to Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 18 10:43:10 2012.

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Yeah, cripples need to go out and get a job.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 11:20:52 2012, in response to Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 18 10:43:10 2012.

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Maybe I'm missing something but that article and its conclusions seem completely stupid.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 18 11:23:38 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 11:20:52 2012.

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You're not missing anything.

The article is retarded.

Besides the aging population, of the biggest contributors to the growth in the ranks of the disabled are the Halliburton Wars.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 11:37:45 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 18 11:23:38 2012.

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I was going to say retarded but some people here seem to get very offended by that.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 14:46:23 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 11:37:45 2012.

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Don't worry, they're all out on disability :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by mr mabstoa on Wed Jul 18 14:55:09 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 18 10:46:15 2012.

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But there's 80,000 new cripples NOW!?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 18 15:54:28 2012, in response to Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 18 10:43:10 2012.

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Let us bless our messiah, Obama.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 18 15:54:41 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by mr mabstoa on Wed Jul 18 14:55:09 2012.

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Obamacare

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 15:59:07 2012, in response to Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 18 10:43:10 2012.

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Bing-bong blamed this on George Bush and the war in Afghanistan.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:01:19 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 18 10:46:15 2012.

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In the last few years the workplace has gotten so unsafe that the number on disability has risen from just over 2 million to more than 8 million. Is that what you are trying to tell us, travis?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 16:02:15 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 15:59:07 2012.

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NO. I stated that many vets returning from those wars are disabled due to brain injury. That would show a swell in disability claims. The military only provides lifetime medical. The rest is up to the individual, and if you have a doctor certifying a disabling injury, you collect disability.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:08:23 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 16:02:15 2012.

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Need I go back and pull link to your reply to me? You specifically referenced George Bush and his war in Afghanistan. Do you want me to show you for the buffoon and liar that you are or do you just want to admit that you mis-spoke?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:17:22 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:08:23 2012.

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In fact, why don't I just go back and post that link and show you once and for all for the irresponsible and dishonest person that you are.

Look it over. Which one of us has more accurately portrayed what was said?






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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 16:34:05 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:08:23 2012.

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I referred to bush's stupid Iraq invasion in the conext of IEDs creating all those brain injuries.Not that those injured in Afghanistan are any lessinjured,but at minimum therewas a point to being there. Although that may hav ebeen avoided had the bushpeople listened to the transition team, etc.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:53:42 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 16:34:05 2012.

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In an earlier post you said that was not what you said. Are you having trouble keeping your lies and mistakes in order? Now you are going to double talk and back-peddle? Once again you've been proven to be a blithering idiot.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 17:21:05 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:01:19 2012.

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Yeah ... that workplace called "Iraq" and the other workplace called "Afghanistan" as well as your usual workplaces. There's even been serious employee injuries in the subway.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jul 18 19:38:36 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:01:19 2012.

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In the last few years the workplace has gotten so unsafe that the number on disability has risen from just over 2 million to more than 8 million.

I wouldn't argue that per se, but I'd make an argument that some people are on disability while receiving treatments for various health issues (e.g cancer, stroke), while others are young and trying to game the system to avoid working, and others are what one could call "nearly" disabled. In other words, they may have had years of seniority built up, but once a firm lets them go, it's difficult to find work not due to economy per se, but simply because nobody wants to employ them. For example, my aunt uses a cane to walk around, and she was a cook in a restaurant. She was let go by the hotel where she works, and while many of her co-workers were able to find work in other hotels and catering halls, she's unable to find work since nobody would willingly employ a cook that needs a cane and has trouble walking, especially if there are plenty of other younger and healthier candidates. Given that she's too young for Social Security, her best option is disability.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:38:52 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:53:42 2012.

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Errrrrrrr, Nance. There's an open question on the floor. Do you not want to answer again?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:46:21 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 17:21:05 2012.

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You are joking, right? The number of people on disability has jumped from 2 million to over 8 million. Are you seriously going to tell me that there have been 6 million disabled vets from Iraq and Afghanistan and the subways? That's a far greater number than the total of all troops that have served there on both sides during Dessert Storm + our recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd expect that from your other half - not you.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 19:54:36 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:46:21 2012.

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I said it was a considerable PART of it, not the totality. But hey ... you've got your talking point for the day and woe be to anyone who doesn't just say "ditto."

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:56:59 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jul 18 19:38:36 2012.

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But why the jump of 300% in a few years. There is something rotten and you needn't go all the way to Denmark to smell it.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:03:17 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 19:54:36 2012.

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I guess that's your way of acknowledging your error. Thank you.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 20:13:49 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:03:17 2012.

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I'll remember to say ONLY what you want to hear ... impeach Obama now. Better? :)

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:17:55 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 20:13:49 2012.

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Where did you get that message from? I certainly don't want the man impeached since he's committed no impeachable offenses. I certainly want him defeated in November and would welcome your vote toward that end.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 20:23:57 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:17:55 2012.

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Just trying to fit in. :)

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:27:03 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 20:23:57 2012.

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You are doing fine. Lets just not go to far afield

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jul 18 21:16:36 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:56:59 2012.

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But why the jump of 300% in a few years. There is something rotten and you needn't go all the way to Denmark to smell it.

Are you implying that the Social Security Administration is fudging admissibility to allow more people to go on disability?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 21:22:04 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jul 18 21:16:36 2012.

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You are inferring where I didn't imply. I do think that this does need to be investigated unless you want to pay 15-18% of your salary to social security and unless you don't want to get your partial benefit until you reach age 72. I think we need to know why only 80,000 jobs were created last month while 82,000 new disability claims were approved.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 19 00:13:09 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:01:19 2012.

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Tell me how Obama has changed eligibility requirements for disability.

It's judges who make final determinations based on criteria that has not changed.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 19 00:15:56 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jul 18 19:38:36 2012.

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What happened is that after the Bush Economic Meltdown a lot of people who were already disabled but working found themselves out of a job and it was a good time to put in for what they would have already been eligible anyway.

The determination for eligibility for benefits often takes years.
Add in Iraq and we are where we are today.


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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 19 03:54:39 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by mr mabstoa on Wed Jul 18 14:55:09 2012.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 19 10:22:53 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 19 00:13:09 2012.

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Are you really that stupid or just reading-challenged? Where did I blame obama for this? Unlike a certain brain deprived individual who wanted to blame Bush, I merely reported the facts and said that it needs to be looked into.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 19 10:23:41 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 19 00:15:56 2012.

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Another moron who is still blaming Bush 4 years later.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 24 20:27:07 2012, in response to Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 18 10:43:10 2012.

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Disability claims DO NOT mean they are getting SS benefits. I worked for 39 years in the Disability section of SSA so I do know how disability claims work.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 25 06:21:53 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 24 20:27:07 2012.

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Dude, you are wrong about a lot of things that logically you should be an expert on. So the fact that you worked there really means nothing.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 25 21:53:18 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 25 06:21:53 2012.

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You are full of SH*T. 39 years at SSA gives one a lot of knowledge. You could never succeed at a job like that with your attitude.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 25 22:31:22 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 25 21:53:18 2012.

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WADL.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 25 22:44:51 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 25 21:53:18 2012.

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What did you do at SSA? I had a cousin who worked in the Baltimore office

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 22:49:33 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 25 22:31:22 2012.

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How do you know?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 25 23:17:55 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 22:49:33 2012.

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You're a moron, Railman718. It's amazing that you manage to even follow simple orders.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 23:18:45 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 22:49:33 2012.

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Bump for Fish Lips since its past his bedtime..

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 25 23:19:20 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 25 21:53:18 2012.

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You are full of SH*T. 39 years at SSA gives one a lot of knowledge. You could never succeed at a job like that with your attitude.

Dude, you are wrong about a lot of things that logically you should be an expert on. So the fact that you worked there really means nothing. In other words, WRONG AGAIN, DAN LAWRENCE!

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 25 23:24:53 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 22:49:33 2012.

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bump

You're a moron, Railman718. It's amazing that you manage to even follow simple orders.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 23:27:08 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 23:18:45 2012.

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Caught!

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 26 08:51:09 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 25 23:19:20 2012.

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Hey, at least he held onto a job for 39 years.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 08:55:56 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 26 08:51:09 2012.

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+1

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 08:58:27 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 26 08:51:09 2012.

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Are you saying that Dan Lawrence has some sort of incapacity that makes his tenure at Social Security a special accomplishment? Especially since Dan Lawrence was one of those MIDDLE MANAGEMENT types that you seem to have so much trouble with. It really must suck being you.

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:07:47 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 08:58:27 2012.

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So this dont fall under your broken clock is right twice a day theme?

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Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 09:17:20 2012, in response to Re: Disability claims now outpacing job growth, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:07:47 2012.

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For Dan or for Bing-Bong? Bing-Bong falls under my "1st Rule of Holes" theorem. When in one, you stop digging. That girl needs her shovel taken away.

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