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Posted by WillD on Sun Jul 22 16:49:03 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Easy on Sun Jul 22 13:47:08 2012. And compared to USC and Ohio State, Washington got royally screwed when the USC and UCLA boosters felt they'd gotten to be too much a challenge on the schedule. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 22 16:58:03 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by WillD on Sun Jul 22 16:49:03 2012. Maybe. I don't know much about that. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 22 17:03:12 2012, in response to Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 11:37:28 2012. There's also been speculation that PSU may be booted from the B1G. Probably just a rumor, but that would be quite a blow. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 22 17:25:37 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 16:04:06 2012. You are acting like the Turtle, which is way below you. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 18:42:48 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 22 16:17:35 2012. Jailhouse justice teaches lessons, as much as a cop beating a suspect with a night stick does. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 18:45:51 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 22 17:25:37 2012. I hardly believe that asking you an honest question is acting any way in particular. Perhaps you don't understand the question and that's why you are sounding so confused. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Jul 22 18:56:11 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P.?, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 22 17:03:12 2012. Definitely. Not so easy being a Bowl Subdivision independent, Notre Dame notwithstanding. (And even ND is Big East for all sports besides football, which begs the question, would all Penn State sports be kicked out of the Big Ten, or just football? Because the other sports really had nothing to do with that shit, as Sandusky (AFAIK) was not involved with them. Only connection is that the Athletic Director presided over all sports). |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 22 20:06:23 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 18:42:48 2012. i dont want to live in a police state |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 22 20:21:02 2012, in response to Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 11:37:28 2012. I will say no---the punishment in a matter like this should instead follow the perps. In fact, I think that Penn State could challenge such a penalty as in violation of the NCAA's own bylaws. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 20:45:56 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 22 20:06:23 2012. Would you want to live in an anti-police state? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 22 20:50:16 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 20:45:56 2012. Why does it have to be a binary choice? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 20:53:48 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 22 20:50:16 2012. What did the original statement have to do with anything. By the way, you seem to be nipping at my heels again. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 22 21:18:08 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 20:53:48 2012. lol |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 22 21:19:01 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 20:45:56 2012. what is your defination of a ''anti-police state''? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 22 22:04:29 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 20:53:48 2012. LOL. Commenting = nipping in your book? You seem to have no compunctions about commenting on this Board. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 22 23:29:12 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 22 22:04:29 2012. you seem a bit too focused but what the heck. I guess you have your reasons. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Mon Jul 23 02:09:35 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 22 12:34:47 2012. The fact that the ex-president of Penn State knew something is why this should and will happen. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Mon Jul 23 02:19:46 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 22 20:21:02 2012. The real problem is that they protected said perp. Penn State is not so innocent and an example has to be made. It is unfortunate that this will happen, but the school will have to answer for at very least not doing enough to protect these kids from a criminal! |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 10:34:32 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 22 14:07:04 2012. It's well known that athletic scholarships don't produce scholars.You mean like Bill Bradley? He was offered 75 scholarships but declined them to go to Princeton. After graduating in 1965, he attended Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship before playing for the Knicks. What about Emily Fox? She attended The University of South Dakota on an athletic scholarship and graduated Summa Cum Laude with honors and is a Phi Beta Kappa. She starts medical school next month. Or what about Kansas State student-athletes Matt Giller and Ryann Krais, (both on baseball scholarships) who were named recipients of the 2011-12 Dr. Prentice Gautt Postgraduate Scholarships in an announcement by the Big 12 Conference last month? Or athletic scholarship tennis player Parker Goyer, who graduated from Duke and won a Rhodes Scholarship in 2009? Or Harry Edwards, an Emeritus Professor at the University of California at Berkeley (UCB). He attended Fresno City College from 1959 to 1960 as a four sport student athlete and transferred to San Jose State University in 1960 on an athletic scholarship in track and field. In 1971 Edwards earned his Ph.D. from Cornell and became a sociology professor at UCB. 'Nuff said. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 23 10:42:05 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 10:34:32 2012. Do 5 success stories outside of sport make up for the thousands constituting the norm? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 11:49:27 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 23 10:42:05 2012. It's well known that athletic scholarships don't produce scholars.Did you, or did you not make this statement? It is an absolute statement, i.e., there are no scholars who were on athletic scholarships. Did I, or did I not post about five people who were on athletic scholarships who went on to do post-doc studies, and in two cases were Rhodes scholars? You're now 0-2 in the last few days. Not an impressive record. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 23 11:53:29 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 11:49:27 2012. There are always exceptions. However, 5 exceptions do NOT change a thing for the thousands that attend a college on an athletic scholarship and walk out (if they even finish) as illiterate as when they walk in. Happens all over, especially at the bigger schools where sports=$$$$. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jul 23 12:39:02 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 22 21:19:01 2012. Wherever you live now. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 14:17:44 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 23 11:53:29 2012. When you make absolute statements, they get fact-checked. Invariably, there are exceptions and you are proven incorrect. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 23 14:19:48 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 14:17:44 2012. Great post. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 14:29:42 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by JBar387 on Mon Jul 23 02:09:35 2012. Then he should be fired and fined for that. Who's really getting punished here? The school and also the local economy who depends on these games for income is being punished for crimes they didn't commit.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Jul 23 15:02:50 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 14:29:42 2012. The school and also the local economy who depends on these games for income is being punished for crimes they didn't commit.I was wondering if someone would note this. Penn State isn't in a big city...it IS the big city (that's dubbed State College) and the center of commerce in that area of the Pennsylvania. While my heart goes out to the victims of that sick bastard, I have serious concerns with punishing the people who had nothing to do with this, school and otherwise. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 15:09:53 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Jul 23 15:02:50 2012. Punishing everyone in sight does nothing to help the victims. The responsibility ends with those in charge and should end there.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 23 15:20:18 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 14:29:42 2012. It's ridiculous to punish all the kids, and that's what they are doing. They have NOTHING to do with this...all the kids that got scholarships, etc....all the kids on the team, and anything to do with it are all punished, and they are not the ones that should be punished for this. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 15:46:19 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 23 15:20:18 2012. I agree, there is a definite end of the trail or responsibility here and it ends with those in charge at Penn State.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 16:33:32 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 23 14:19:48 2012. Thanks! |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 23 16:39:41 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Dave on Mon Jul 23 14:17:44 2012. Only the OCD stricken think like that. Are you an OCD kid? Or is it CDO?
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Posted by JBar387 on Mon Jul 23 17:06:19 2012, in response to Re: Penn State Football Program - R.I.P., posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 14:29:42 2012. He may end up in jail too. They let it go on for so long Penn State will have to pay. Unfortunate but it is done. |
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