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Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 16 07:16:08 2012 fiogf49gjkf0d 21. Not to bear a grudge--Leviticus 19:18 22. To learn Torah and teach it--Deuteronomy 6:7 23. To honor those who teach and know Torah--Leviticus 19:32 24. Not to inquire into idolatry--Leviticus 19:4 25. Not to follow the whims of your heart or what your eyes see--Numbers 15:39 26. Not to blaspheme--Exodus 22:27 27. Not to worship idols in the manner they are worshiped--Exodus 20:5 28. Not to bow down to idols--Exodus 20:5 29. Not to make an idol for yourself--Exodus 20:4 30. Not to make an idol for others--Leviticus 19:4 31. Not to make human forms even for decorative purposes--Exodus 20:20 32. Not to turn a city to idolatry--Exodus 23:13 33. To burn a city that has turned to idol worship--Deuteronomy 13:17 34. Not to rebuild it as a city--Deuteronomy 13:17 35. Not to derive benefit from it--Deuteronomy 13:18 36. Not to missionize an individual to idol worship--Deuteronomy 13:12 37. Not to love the missionary--Deuteronomy 13:9 38. Not to cease hating the missionary--Deuteronomy 13:9 39. Not to save the missionary--Deuteronomy 13:9 40. Not to say anything in his defense--Deuteronomy 13:9 41. Not to refrain from incriminating him--Deuteronomy 13:9 42. Not to prophesize in the name of idolatry--Deuteronomy 18:20 43. Not to listen to a false prophet--Deuteronomy 13:4 44. Not to prophesize falsely in the name of God--Deuteronomy 18:20 45. Not to be afraid of killing the false prophet--Deuteronomy 18:22 46. Not to swear in the name of an idol--Exodus 23:13 47. Not to perform Ov (medium)--Leviticus 19:31 48. Not to perform Yidoni (magical seer)--Leviticus 19:31 49. Not to pass your children through the fire to Molech--Leviticus 18:21 50. Not to erect a column in a public place of worship--Deuteronomy 16:22
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by italianstallion* on Mon Jul 16 17:10:39 2012, in response to Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 16 07:16:08 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d "Not to make human forms even for decorative purposes." This still in effect? Sounds Islamic to me.
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by SLRT* on Mon Jul 16 17:28:05 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by italianstallion on Mon Jul 16 17:10:39 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d A division between Islam and Judaism is that Muslims continue certain strict interpretations that most Jewish groups abandoned. The second is the punishment inflicted on violators.
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by Italianstallion* on Mon Jul 16 20:36:34 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 16 17:28:05 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d What about the ultra- Orthodox and the haredim? Do they believe in this?
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Jul 17 06:11:38 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by Italianstallion on Mon Jul 16 20:36:34 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Go ask one.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Jul 17 06:23:06 2012, in response to Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 16 07:16:08 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d A lot of the Bible reads like the first labor contract; e.g., the shabbat is for rest. Likewise, the Holidays are all set out. I was going to post 50 items but I didn't want to cut the holidays in half. 51. Not to bow down on smooth stone--Leviticus 26:1 52. Not to plant a tree in the Temple courtyard--Deuteronomy 16:21 53. To destroy idols and their accessories--Deuteronomy 12:2 54. Not to derive benefit from idols and their accessories--Deuteronomy 7:26 55. Not to derive benefit from ornaments of idols--Deuteronomy 7:25 56. Not to make a covenant with idolaters--Deuteronomy 7:2 57. Not to show favor to them--Deuteronomy 7:2 58. Not to let them dwell in our land--Exodus 23:33 59. Not to imitate them in customs and clothing--Leviticus 20:23 60. Not to be superstitious--Leviticus 19:26 61. Not to go into a trance to foresee events, etc.--Deuteronomy 18:10 62. Not to engage in astrology--Leviticus 19:26 63. Not to mutter incantations--Deuteronomy 18:11 64. Not to attempt to engage the dead in conversation--Deuteronomy 18:11 65. Not to consult the Ov--Deuteronomy 18:11 66. Not to consult the Yidoni--Deuteronomy 18:11 67. Not to perform acts of magic--Deuteronomy 18:10 68. Men must not shave the hair off the sides of their head--Leviticus 19:27 69. Men must not shave their beards with a razor--Leviticus 19:27 70. Men must not wear women's clothing--Deuteronomy 22:5 71. Women must not wear men's clothing--Deuteronomy 22:5 72. Not to tattoo the skin--Leviticus 19:28 73. Not to tear the skin in mourning--Deuteronomy 14:1 74. Not to make a bald spot in mourning--Deuteronomy 14:1 75. To repent and confess wrongdoings--Numbers 5:7 76. To say the Shema twice daily--Deuteronomy 6:7 77. To serve the Almighty with prayer daily--Exodus 23:25 78. The Kohanim must bless the Jewish nation daily--Numbers 6:23 79. To wear Tefillin on the head--Deuteronomy 6:8 80. To bind tefillin on the arm--Deuteronomy 6:8 81. To put a Mezuzah on each door post--Deuteronomy 6:9 82. To write a Sefer Torah--Deuteronomy 31:19 83. The king must have a separate Sefer Torah for himself--Deuteronomy 17:18 84. To have Tzitzit on four-cornered garments--Numbers 15:38 85. To bless the Almighty after eating--Deuteronomy 8:10 86. To circumcise all males on the eighth day after their birth--Leviticus 12:3 87. To rest on the seventh day--Exodus 23:12 88. Not to do prohibited labor on the seventh day--Exodus 20:10 89. The court must not inflict punishment on Shabbat--Exodus 35:3 90. Not to walk more than 2000 cubits outside the city boundary on Shabbat--Exodus 16:29 91. To sanctify the day with Kiddush and Havdalah--Exodus 20:8 92. To rest from prohibited labor on Yom Kippur--Leviticus 23:32 93. Not to do prohibited labor on Yom Kippur--Leviticus 23:31 94. To afflict yourself on Yom Kippur--Leviticus 16:29 95. Not to eat or drink on Yom Kippur--Leviticus 23:29 96. To rest on the first day of Passover--Leviticus 23:8 97. Not to do prohibited labor on the first day of Passover--Leviticus 23:8 98. To rest on the seventh day of Passover--Leviticus 23:8 99. Not to do prohibited labor on the seventh day of Passover--Leviticus 23:8 100. To rest on Shavuot--Leviticus 23:21 101. Not to do prohibited labor on Shavuot--Leviticus 23:21 102. To rest on Rosh Hashanah--Leviticus 23:24 103. Not to do prohibited labor on Rosh Hashanah--Leviticus 23:25 104. To rest on Sukkot--Leviticus 23:35 105. Not to do prohibited labor on Sukkot--Leviticus 23:35 106. To rest on Shemini Atzeret--Leviticus 23:36 107. Not to do prohibited labor on Shemini Atzeret--Leviticus 23:36 108. Not to eat Chametz on the afternoon of the 14th day of Nissan--Deuteronomy 16:3 109. To destroy all Chametz on 14th day of Nissan--Exodus 12:15 110. Not to eat Chametz all seven days of Passover--Exodus 13:3 111. Not to eat mixtures containing Chametz all seven days of Passover--Exodus 12:20 112. Chametz should not be seen in your domain seven days--Exodus 13:7 113. Chametz should not be found in your domain seven days--Exodus 12:19 114. To eat Matzah on the first night of Passover--Exodus 12:18 115. To relate the Exodus from Egypt on that night--Exodus 13:8 116. To hear the Shofar on the first day of Tishrei (Rosh Hashanah)--Numbers 29:1 117. To dwell in a Sukkah for the seven days of Sukkot--Leviticus 23:42 118. To take up a Lulav and Etrog all seven days of Sukkot--Leviticus 23:40
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Tue Jul 17 08:47:19 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by italianstallion on Mon Jul 16 17:10:39 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d "Not to make human forms even for decorative purposes." The actual law is "If thou make [G-d] an altar of stone, you shall not build it of hewn stones." I'm no Torah scholar and I'm sure there's some interpretation somewhere that it means no decorative human forms. It's not practiced by any haredim I know, who have pictures of their family and rabbeim displayed prominently, but it was common for Protestant sects in the colonial U.S. to not make "graven images." Think of the faceless Amish dolls. FWIW, the verse references in the list are to the Yemenite Torah. Not sure where the list originated, but it seems to be repeated a lot on Christian and missionary sites.
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Jul 17 11:19:45 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jul 17 08:47:19 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Maimonides.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by italianstallion* on Tue Jul 17 14:44:25 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 06:23:06 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d These still in effect?: Men must not shave their beards with a razor--Leviticus 19:27 Women must not wear men's clothing--Deuteronomy 22:5 Not to tattoo the skin--Leviticus 19:28 Not to be superstitious--Leviticus 19:26
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Jul 17 15:28:38 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by italianstallion on Tue Jul 17 14:44:25 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Men must not shave their beards with a razor--Leviticus 19:27 What?????? Not to tattoo the skin--Leviticus 19:28 That's definitely still in effect.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Tue Jul 17 16:23:50 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by italianstallion on Tue Jul 17 14:44:25 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d These still in effect? They don't go out of effect. The posted translations may or may not be what is actually accepted and followed.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Tue Jul 17 16:24:12 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 15:28:38 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Men must not shave their beards with a razor--Leviticus 19:27 What?????? Why do you think so many Jews have beards?
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Jul 17 16:30:14 2012, in response to Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 16 07:16:08 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Maybe you should start studying the Talmud, which interprets the Torah instead of taking it at literal face value.
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Jul 17 16:50:40 2012, in response to Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 16 07:16:08 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3216/jewish/What-was-the-Holy-Temple.htm
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by Easy* on Tue Jul 17 17:24:01 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jul 17 16:24:12 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Why would he? Do you know why the Amish have beards?
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Jul 17 17:29:54 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jul 17 16:24:12 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Got me, and how does it explain the many more that don't?
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 17 19:31:23 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 15:28:38 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Doesn't say not to shave their beards with a razor. Look it up.
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Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 17 19:32:04 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 21-50 (Lots of Idolatry), posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 17 16:30:14 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Where do you think these are coming from?
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 17 19:39:09 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by Easy on Tue Jul 17 17:24:01 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Apples and oranges.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 17 19:39:13 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jul 17 16:24:12 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d But that's not what the verse says at all.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 17 19:44:59 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 06:23:06 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d 103. Not to do prohibited labor on Rosh Hashanah--Leviticus 23:25 No; that refers to the festival of blowing the shofar, aka Yom Teruah.
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Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays)
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Jul 17 19:57:42 2012, in response to Re: Mitzvot 51-118 (More of Idolatry and holidays), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 17:29:54 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Electric "razors" and non-observant Jews.
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