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Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012 Tryvon Martin's admitted killer wants the current judge off the case. This is the second time the defense has asked for a different jurist. It certainly seems to me as though Zimmerman is looking for a friendly judge, after the current one, Kenneth Lester, said Zimmerman, "by any definition, flaunted the system" when the accused murderer and his wife lied about his finances.Mind you, Zimmerman is free on bail again, in spite of concocting a scheme to hide his assets and a second passport, from the court. He is really trying to weasel his way out of justice here. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 15 09:18:25 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. *rolls eyes* |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 09:18:32 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. Probably. Next comes venue shopping. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 15 09:57:02 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 09:18:32 2012. Yea, he should move the trail to the south side of chicago |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 10:02:18 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. You mean you are not supposed to do that? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 10:04:54 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 10:02:18 2012. Not after being caught lying to the very judge you are trying to kick off the case. I think Lester has displayed the patience of Job with Zimmerman and his wife, considering the defendant's shenanigans to date. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 10:13:26 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 15 09:57:02 2012. I was thinking more towards the western part, the Gulf coast of Florida, but you get the idea. I'm sure the Florida justice system would consider Chicago infeasible. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 10:16:19 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 10:04:54 2012. Considering he let them out on bail (again in his case) to begin with he's being quite lenient. This is a murder defendant we're discussing here, they usually don't get bail at any price. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 11:08:55 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 10:04:54 2012. So, then, you are saying that George Zimmerman is not entitled to the same rights as other accused criminals? |
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Posted by Charles G on Sun Jul 15 11:12:07 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. Does he not have the right to ask? |
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Posted by Charles G on Sun Jul 15 11:13:16 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 09:18:32 2012. Should he not have the right to ask if he feels that he should? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 11:19:16 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Charles G on Sun Jul 15 11:13:16 2012. How would he react if denied? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 15 11:20:13 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. Not really; the latest remarks he made have probably sealed it for needing a new judge. Saying that you are not charged enough is conduct unbecoming a judge; the judge is not a prosecutor. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 15 11:20:59 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 10:04:54 2012. You're overlooking very recent remarks by the very same judge, however, after that went down. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 15 11:23:55 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Charles G on Sun Jul 15 11:13:16 2012. Exactly. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 11:31:58 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 15 11:23:55 2012. Unfortunately, by there behavior & attitudes, it would seem that there are at least 2 in our midst who seemingly have more than a rooting interest in the outcome of this trial. Justice is not important. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 15 11:37:41 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. iawtp |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 11:48:11 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 11:31:58 2012. By behavior and attitudes, there are those here that hold a belief that this particular defendant is somehow entitled to a standard of justice not open to other defendants that are not of their particular liking. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 15 12:01:14 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. Maybe you should write a letter to his attorney outlining your strenuous objection to his vigorous defense of an obviously guilty man. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 15 12:23:51 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. He's trying to ditch an obviously biased judge. As is his right.Just prepare yourself for his eventual acquittal. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 15 12:35:50 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 10:04:54 2012. Given that he was granted bond again, the kerfuffle over the defense fund has been laid to rest.Zimmerman's lawyer is feeling pretty good these days. You can blame an overzealous prosecutor for that. There's zero chance the 2nd degree murder charge can be sustained now that the FBI states there's no evidence he was motivated by racial bias. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 12:52:58 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 15 12:23:51 2012. Didn't you also predict the SC would find ACA unconstitutional?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 12:54:17 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. It's not an alien request and within his right.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 12:56:36 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 15 12:23:51 2012. This ”obviously biased” judge is the same one who let Zimmerman out on bail, twice. Given that most murder suspects are held without bail, I'd say this judge has gone out of his way to be lenient with Zimmerman. Could you see a judge here in NYC tolerating Zimmerman's duplicity--to say nothing of hiding a second passport, after being ordered to surrender the first one--for even ten seconds? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 15 14:47:52 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 12:54:17 2012. I must admit Zimmerman is getting boring. He'll be acquitted, convicted of a lesser charge, or convicted of murder, and in all 3 cases we'll never really know if justice was served, because it all relates to his state of mind, which is unknown.The only significant national issue about Zimmerman was that he deserved to be carefully investigated, and not just sent off with a pat on the back. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 15 17:38:43 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 10:13:26 2012. The Gulf Coast, where most the chicago retirees live? Or where all the Indiana folks move to, you know, the ones where 2008 studies show do most of the racist searches on google. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 18:34:22 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 15 17:38:43 2012. I'm sure he'd be fine with either. Won't serve justice for the victim, which is what this is supposed to be all about. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 18:44:42 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. LOL !!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 15 18:45:38 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 15 12:23:51 2012. He probably will be going to prison. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jul 15 18:54:42 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 15 14:47:52 2012. The only significant national issue about Zimmerman was that he deserved to be carefully investigated, and not just sent off with a pat on the back.That's exactly it. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 15 19:57:51 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 15 12:35:50 2012. Florida law actually all but mandates second-degree murder charges. See 10-20-Life. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 23:44:15 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 12:56:36 2012. Actually, in all but capital murder cases, the 8th amendment requires reasonable bail. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 16 00:16:58 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 15 17:38:43 2012. Better check that because according to her the retirees in the Florida panhandle are moving to Detroit because the local fast food workers in Florida are untrainable - at least that's what I think she said. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 16 01:03:45 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 15 14:47:52 2012. Under Florida law, he can't be lesser-charged. See 10-20-Life. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 16 01:30:22 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Charles G on Sun Jul 15 11:13:16 2012. Yes, especially if the judge has made prejudicial statements, which he has. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 16 01:40:24 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 11:31:58 2012. Yep ... fuck Trayvon ... he had it coming, right? :-\ |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 16 03:15:20 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 15 09:18:32 2012. given Florida's track record of crazy jury decisions, he may not want to change venue. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jul 16 04:51:14 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 16 01:40:24 2012. That's what laluch believes. 8-0 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 16 04:55:13 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jul 16 04:51:14 2012. Sadly, he's not alone. :(Charles Bronson is not a way of life. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 16 04:56:49 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 16 04:55:13 2012. ? I have little to say about Zimmerman. I have said he should have stayed in his car. I'm not happy that Martin is dead. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 16 04:57:59 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 16 04:56:49 2012. THERE, we agree ... he was even given an extra chance to win by the 911 operator. :( |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 16 08:46:35 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jul 16 01:30:22 2012. I would say a statement like "he is flaunting the law" about someone that hid money and a second passport from evidence in a bail hearing on a murder charge as prejudicial. Those are statements of facts. He IS flaunting the law.That he was let out on bail is the surprising action here. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 16 09:10:37 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 16 08:46:35 2012. Re: Willard's Offshore Assets Remain Hidden (959472) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 16 09:45:03 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 15 23:44:15 2012. And in most murder cases, the defendant is held without bail, whether or not the case is eligible for the death penalty. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 16 11:20:31 2012, in response to Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 15 09:16:16 2012. He has gotten a bum deal in the press. They have already decided he is guilty. Why do they keep showing a five year old picture of Treyvon Martin that makes him look like an angel, not the 17 year old 6 foot two menace that he was? More recent pictures are available which are only shown on the Internet, but all the media insists on showing that sweet picture of a little kid. I'm not saying that Zimmerman was definitely innocent. We won't know that until all th facts come out, but the press is clearly trying to mislead in this case. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jul 16 11:45:21 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 16 11:20:31 2012. "Why do they keep showing a five year old picture of Treyvon Martin that makes him look like an angel, not the 17 year old 6 foot two menace that he was?"Now lets look at the facts here....2 people ...one an adult ARMED with a weapon and the other is a kid with NO WEAPON who went to store to buy some candy only to be shot because he was walking in the wrong neighborhood for Zimmerman. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 16 12:18:33 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 16 11:20:31 2012. Sounds like you've made up your mind already, calling Martin a "menace". We don't know that.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 16 15:32:29 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 16 09:45:03 2012. "What this means in practice is the elimination of the discretion which the common law vested in the courts with regard to whether or not bail should be allowed. This does not eliminate the use of judicial discretion in bail cases, but it does bar choice by the judge on the question of whether an individual arrested for other than a capital offense should be admitted to bail.http://members.mobar.org/civics/Bail.htm |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 16 15:41:45 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 16 11:20:31 2012. I seriously think you should reconsider who is the "menace" in this case. Hint: It's NOT Trayvon Martin. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 16 16:55:02 2012, in response to Re: Is George Zimmerman Judge-Shopping?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 16 15:32:29 2012. BUMP |
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