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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 01:57:14 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 01:45:46 2012. "Google McCarren Pool you fucking savage."The fuckin HEAT will make anyone be a savage...even you! it's a FREE pool...they don't discriminate.....do you? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 02:01:57 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 4 01:00:33 2012. I guess you really want to IMPLY to the fullest that all immigrants to the USA are illegal.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 02:02:28 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 3 19:46:13 2012. I guess you really want to IMPLY to the fullest that all immigrants to the USA are illegal.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 02:02:44 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 3 19:46:41 2012. I guess you really want to IMPLY to the fullest that all immigrants to the USA are illegal.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 02:08:45 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 15:24:07 2012. "Lawrence of Arabia? I doubt you'd find one among Jews."No...Lawrence, Long Island...... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:24:42 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 01:15:50 2012. >>>>>"....you piece of shit scumbag......Moron."<<<<<<<>>>>"I'm not getting nasty.">>>>> Sure |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:26:40 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 01:03:28 2012. Parrot |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:30:03 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 19:42:57 2012. The obfuscating labelmaster is in the house, |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:32:12 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 01:45:46 2012. >>>>>....you fucking savage<<<<<"I'm not getting nasty" LOL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:33:37 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 01:42:11 2012. I'm ambidextrous, myself. 8-) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:35:48 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 01:48:28 2012. He appears to be sweet on you, also. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:38:47 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 02:02:28 2012. Olag is doucheies sock puppet, it would seem. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 4 03:39:02 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 22:57:09 2012. lol what ? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 4 03:48:11 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 01:45:46 2012. Have you been there yet since it re-opened? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 04:09:28 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 4 03:48:11 2012. Only minority savages go there. Not our racist douchy, fer sure. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 04:20:40 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 4 03:48:11 2012. No. I have not been there as if it fucking matters.But ny1 did a big story about it yesterday. It's going as I expected. http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/164155/mccarren-pool-incidents-raise-question-of-pool-security |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 04:21:15 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 04:09:28 2012. it's in the middle of a yuppie neighborhood. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 04:27:25 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 04:21:15 2012. SO? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 04:30:45 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 04:20:40 2012. Guidos out of control. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 4 04:43:30 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 04:30:45 2012. probably.i'm listening to CoasttoCoastAM and it's a good episode. you should listen too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 4 05:07:38 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 20:17:03 2012. Have you ever thought that minorities maybe are more likely that whites to hang out at malls and beaches? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 4 05:10:35 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jul 3 23:43:19 2012. So what? Christmas decorations are often mounted over a street between PUBLICLY owned lampposts, let alone privately-owned utility poles. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 4 05:34:12 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 3 14:53:00 2012. Welp ... might as well get my own ass in some trouble over this one then.For numerous years now, I've been warning people about "we don't want a Mosque" here and what it meant. And here we are now. You go after one religion, it gets a WHOLE lot easier to go after the others. :( (just like nobody seems to figure out where I was going with Romney and the Mormons - this shit should have been stopped way back there.) |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jul 4 06:23:15 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 4 05:10:35 2012. Christmas decorations are often mounted over a street between PUBLICLY owned lampposts, let alone privately-owned utility poles.The types of decorations permitted on public property are secular in nature. OTOH, an eruv is religious. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 4 08:54:11 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 22:38:53 2012. No, the thrust of the discussion was that liberals tell others how they should live and what they should support (fair labor standards, open neighborhoods), but they don't walk the walk. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 09:13:29 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 01:48:28 2012. No, other than a poor source of amusement, I have no interest in any interaction with you, raving Ricky. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 09:16:07 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 4 03:35:48 2012. I see andee has a new playmate |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 4 09:28:06 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 4 02:08:45 2012. Lawrence of Long Island? The camel salesman? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 4 09:31:43 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by DAND124 on Tue Jul 3 23:56:45 2012. True, with parking being the most popular.Most people wouldn't want to vote in an increase in their property taxes tho, unless they felt threatened. Once you re-zone and values increase, the property tax will proportionately increase. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 09:35:30 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 4 09:31:43 2012. It would be a bit difficult to rezone for lot size in my community unless you are going to condemn every other house. As for property taxes, they seem to be able to raise them every year without rezoning. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 4 12:29:30 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jul 4 06:23:15 2012. I disagree that any Christmas decorations are secular. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 14:34:47 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 19:55:09 2012. Sorry that I attacked you for a reason that you forgot! As a political isolationist, I do not want illegals in our country. The problem is that contractors hire these people with no questions asked. In response, everyone passes laws that no one enforces, so the problems get worse. When was the last time you read about a contractor being fined for using illegals?And why are the code enforcement officers not doing their jobs and boarding up these illegal dwellings? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 4 17:01:04 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 22:57:09 2012. zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 20:55:58 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 4 17:01:04 2012. Wake the fuck up |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 4 21:58:21 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 20:55:58 2012. LADIES 1st |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 22:04:57 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 4 21:58:21 2012. Ah then that would be you, bitch :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 4 22:24:33 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 4 22:04:57 2012. no you 1stLOL |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jul 5 10:43:56 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jul 3 20:02:39 2012. Sounds good to me. Go right ahead! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 13:41:26 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 4 01:01:35 2012. 
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Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 13:44:33 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 4 01:01:35 2012. From CNN.COM:Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur - CNN.com By Charles Garcia , Special to CNN updated 9:42 AM EDT, Thu July 5, 2012 Editor's note: Charles Garcia, who has served in the administrations of four presidents, of both parties, is the CEO of Garcia Trujillo, a business focused on the Hispanic market. He was named in the book "Hispanics in the USA: Making History" as one of 14 Hispanic role models for the nation. Follow him on Twitter: @charlespgarcia (CNN) -- Last month's Supreme Court decision in the landmark Arizona immigration case was groundbreaking for what it omitted: the words "illegal immigrants" and "illegal aliens," except when quoting other sources. The court's nonjudgmental language established a humanistic approach to our current restructuring of immigration policy. When you label someone an "illegal alien" or "illegal immigrant" or just plain "illegal," you are effectively saying the individual, as opposed to the actions the person has taken, is unlawful. The terms imply the very existence of an unauthorized migrant in America is criminal. In this country, there is still a presumption of innocence that requires a jury to convict someone of a crime. If you don't pay your taxes, are you an illegal? What if you get a speeding ticket? A murder conviction? No. You're still not an illegal. Even alleged terrorists and child molesters aren't labeled illegals. By becoming judge, jury and executioner, you dehumanize the individual and generate animosity toward them. New York Times editorial writer Lawrence Downes says "illegal" is often "a code word for racial and ethnic hatred." The term "illegal immigrant" was first used in 1939 as a slur by the British toward Jews who were fleeing the Nazis and entering Palestine without authorization. Holocaust survivor and Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel aptly said that "no human being is illegal." Migrant workers residing unlawfully in the U.S. are not -- and never have been -- criminals. They are subject to deportation, through a civil administrative procedure that differs from criminal prosecution, and where judges have wide discretion to allow certain foreign nationals to remain here. Another misconception is that the vast majority of migrant workers currently out of status sneak across our southern border in the middle of the night. Actually, almost half enter the U.S. with a valid tourist or work visa and overstay their allotted time. Many go to school, find a job, get married and start a family. And some even join the Marine Corps, like Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, who was the first combat veteran to die in the Iraq War. While he was granted American citizenship posthumously, there are another 38,000 undocumented soldiers defending our country. Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and three other justices, stated: "As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States." The court also ruled that it was not a crime to seek or engage in unauthorized employment. As Kennedy explained, removal of an unauthorized migrant is a civil matter where even if the person is out of status, federal officials have wide discretion to determine whether deportation makes sense. For example, if an unauthorized person is trying to support his family by working or has "children born in the United States, long ties to the community, or a record of distinguished military service," officials may let him stay. Also, if individuals or their families might be politically persecuted or harmed upon return to their country of origin, they may also remain in the United States. While the Supreme Court has chosen language less likely to promote hatred and divisiveness, journalists continue using racially offensive language. University of Memphis journalism professor Thomas Hrach conducted a study of 122,000 news stories published between 2000 and 2010, to determine which terms are being used to describe foreign nationals in the U.S. who are out of status. He found that 89% of the time during this period, journalists used the biased terms "illegal immigrant" and "illegal alien." Hrach discovered that there was a substantial increase in the use of the term "illegal immigrant," which he correlated back to the Associated Press Stylebook's decision in 2004 to recommend "illegal immigrant" to its members. (It's the preferred term at CNN and The New York Times as well.) The AP Stylebook is the decisive authority on word use at virtually all mainstream daily newspapers, and it's used by editors at television, radio and electronic news media. According to the AP, this term is "accurate and neutral." For the AP to claim that "illegal immigrant" is "accurate and neutral" is like Moody's giving Bernie Madoff's hedge fund a triple-A rating for safety and creditworthiness. It's almost as if the AP were following the script of pollster and Fox News contributor Frank Luntz, considered the foremost GOP expert on crafting the perfect conservative political message. In 2005, he produced a 25-page secret memorandum that would radically alter the immigration debate to distort public perception of the issue. The secret memorandum almost perfectly captures Mitt Romney's position on immigration -- along with that of every anti-immigrant politician and conservative pundit. For maximum impact, Luntz urges Republicans to offer fearful rhetoric: "This is about overcrowding of YOUR schools, emergency room chaos in YOUR hospitals, the increase in YOUR taxes, and the crime in YOUR communities." He also encourages them to talk about "border security," because after 9/11, this "argument does well among all voters -- even hardcore Democrats," as it conjures up the specter of terrorism. George Orwell's classic "Nineteen Eighty-Four" shows how even a free society is susceptible to manipulation by overdosing on worn-out prefabricated phrases that convert people into lifeless dummies, who become easy prey for the political class. News: For immigrant graduates, a 'leap of faith has been answered,' educator says In "Nineteen Eighty-Four," Orwell creates a character named Syme who I find eerily similar to Luntz. Syme is a fast-talking word genius in the research department of the Ministry of Truth. He invents doublespeak for Big Brother and edits the Newspeak Dictionary by destroying words that might lead to "thoughtcrimes." Section B contains the doublespeak words with political implications that will spread in speakers' minds like a poison. In Luntz's book "Words That Work," Appendix B lists "The 21 Political Words and Phrases You Should Never Say Again." For example, destroy "undocumented worker" and instead say "illegal immigrant," because "the label" you use "determines the attitudes people have toward them." And the poison is effective. Surely it's no coincidence that in 2010, hate crimes against Latinos made up 66% of the violence based on ethnicity, up from 45% in 2009, according to the FBI. In his essay "Politics and the English Language," Orwell warned that one must be constantly on guard against a ready-made phrase that "anaesthetizes a portion of one's brain." But Orwell also wrote that "from time to time one can even, if one jeers loudly enough, send some worn-out and useless phrase ... into the dustbin, where it belongs" -- just like the U.S. Supreme Court did. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 5 13:47:07 2012, in response to Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 13:44:33 2012. see above |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 5 13:58:56 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jul 3 20:02:39 2012. And that, my friend, is when you violate the separation of Church/Synagogue and StateThere's no such thing in the US constitution. And even if there were, you'd be wrong anyhow. |
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Posted by Allan on Thu Jul 5 13:58:59 2012, in response to Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 13:44:33 2012. How about - "Improperly Residing Person" instead of "illegal immigrant" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 5 13:59:16 2012, in response to Re: Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur, posted by Allan on Thu Jul 5 13:58:59 2012. Don't feed the troll. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 14:00:43 2012, in response to Re: Why 'illegal immigrant' isn't a slur, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 5 13:59:16 2012. 
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 14:02:26 2012, in response to Re: Why 'illegal immigrant' isn't a slur, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 5 13:59:16 2012. "Don't feed the troll."That label falls definately on YOU 
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 14:06:36 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 5 13:58:56 2012. LOL! |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 5 14:11:02 2012, in response to Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 13:44:33 2012. The only catch in this whole argument is that "illegal" or "unlawful" doesn't mean criminal.A speeding ticket could have the written comment from the officer that the reicipient was "traveling at an unlawful speed". One also refers to someone making "an illegal left turn", for example. |
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Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 5 14:11:59 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 5 14:06:36 2012. Gonna keep lying? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 5 14:16:01 2012, in response to Why 'illegal immigrant' is a slur, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jul 5 13:44:33 2012. This should surprise no one on the Right. The liberal world has turned our traditional identities upside down. White Americans are no longer such. At sometime in the recent past. the liberal media changed things. White Americans suddenly became "Non-Hispanic Whites" and since we don't see the label "Hispanic whites" I'm assuming that "Hispanic Whites" are now the new "whites" in America. |
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