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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:20:36 2012 From the NYTIMES.COM:July 2, 2012 Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In By ELIZABETH A. HARRIS The Long Island Rail Road station in the town of East Hampton is a manicured place; the little white station house flanked by tidy trees almost looks like a child’s toy that just came out of the box. It is a short drive from the beach and steps from lavish boutiques, stores like John Varvatos and Coach. On any summer day, caravans of luxury cars can be spotted out front. But on any workday, residents say, it is dotted with another sight as well: men in sturdy boots and dusty jeans, laborers looking to be picked up for work. When one thinks of the Hamptons, what jumps to mind are masters of the universe and their mansions by the sea. But a strong, steady stream of immigrants has been flowing to the area for years, drawn by a service economy that demands hedges be trimmed and houses be cleaned. In the Springs, a hamlet in the town of East Hampton, where most of the houses are small and the year-round population is relatively large, the Hispanic population has tripled in the past 10 years — and tension has emerged. Some longtime residents of the Springs and similar areas complain that homes are being illegally crowded, that houses with half a dozen cars parked outside are a blight on the street, and that the many children living inside are overwhelming the local schools and causing property taxes to rise. “When you tell people you live in East Hampton, the first words out of their mouth are usually, ‘Do you live next to P. Diddy or Alec Baldwin?’ ” said Dennis Michael Lynch, an East Hampton resident and a filmmaker who made a documentary about illegal immigration called “They Come to America.” “People have a perception of the Hamptons,” Mr. Lynch continued. “They don’t have an image of illegal immigrants packed like sardines into houses.” The pockets of tension are concentrated in year-round communities, where the immigrants, legal and illegal, tend to live alongside the landscapers and the contractors with whom they are competing for business. These areas are far less affluent than the southern end of town, where Manhattanites spend the summer by the ocean, in homes hidden behind 12-foot hedges. “South of the highway, the rich people, they don’t care,” said Ricardo Rodriguez, a carpenter from Colombia who has lived in East Hampton for 12 years. It is among “the working people, regular people like us,” he continued, where less welcoming sentiments can be found. “You can feel it.” Most of the houses on the leafy, winding roads of the Springs are small, well kept but simple. Pickup trucks and modest cars are parked in driveways under fluttering American flags. Home prices and rents are relatively low. Most Springs residents are white, but according to the 2010 census, 37 percent are Hispanic. Francisco Rafael Varela, an immigrant from Nicaragua who was waiting for a bus in East Hampton last week under a clear blue sky, said that when he came to this country, he came not to New York City or to Florida, but directly to the Hamptons to find work. Mr. Lynch and others who have raised the issue of crowded houses — at Town Board meetings or in property owner association newsletters — say it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity, but rather enforcement of existing codes that designate homes for single-family use. If a house is crammed with several families, they say, or occupied like a rooming house, that can hurt a whole street. Or when neighbors pack houses full of children, their critics complain of ending up shouldering an unfair portion of the school tax burden. “This is really about property values and the neighborhood,” said Carol Saxe Buda, who helped begin a group called Unoccupy Springs about a year and a half ago to address crowding. “A substantial number of illegally occupied homes reflect a certain community,” she added, referring to immigrants, but she emphasized that where the residents came from was never the reason her group singled out a home. The group’s members highlight only places that are, by their crowding, straining the local schools or threatening neighboring property values, she said. “We report houses that are problems," she said. “We don’t care who’s in them.” The East Hampton housing code allows no more than four unrelated people, or one family, to occupy a single-family home, and town officials acknowledge that crowding does exist. They receive a few complaints each week, most frequently in the Springs, and some of those do result in violations. And the deputy town supervisor, Theresa K. Quigley, said the Springs had some of the highest per-acre taxes around. Nonetheless, some residents, including Ms. Quigley, say the objections are more sinister. “The people who came to the Town Board insist there is nothing racial intended,” said Ms. Quigley, who was born and raised in the Hamptons. “They say they’re talking about overcrowding, but they’re talking about Latinos.” This spring, some residents went to a Town Board meeting waving giant photographs of homes they said were over-occupied, Ms. Quigley recounted, and threatening to compile and publicize a list of every one of those homes they could find. Ms. Quigley made a comment to a person nearby comparing the sentiments in the room to the rise of Nazism. That comment was picked up by a microphone and it soon typhooned into a controversy. Last week, she refused to back down from the comparison. “How, how, how could a country do what they did?” Ms. Quigley, who has lived in Germany, asked of that country’s past. “I don’t have an answer, but I can tell you one thing: It’s a series of little steps. It doesn’t happen in a huge bang. And it happens by targeting a group for your problems.” East Hampton, she continued, “is a great place to live, but we have troubles.” “People tend to blame the Latino community for their troubles,” she added. “Doesn’t that sound a little familiar? Like blaming the Jews for troubles in Germany.” Fred Weinberg, a member of the Unoccupy Springs group who was at that Town Board meeting, said that as a Jewish man, he found the remarks extremely offensive, and he demanded Ms. Quigley’s resignation. She did not oblige or apologize. Today he continues to work on the issues of crowding, he said, though he prefers to work away from Ms. Quigley when possible. “I know there are people who probably are racist,” Mr. Weinberg said. “But it’s not me, it’s not Carol Buda, it’s not any of the people that I know who have been trying to work on this problem. We just want them, very simply, to enforce the law and protect our community.” |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jul 3 13:32:07 2012, in response to Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:20:36 2012. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 13:36:10 2012, in response to Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:20:36 2012. “I know there are people who probably are racist,” Mr. Weinberg said. “But it’s not me, it’s not Carol Buda, it’s not any of the people that I know who have been trying to work on this problem. We just want them, very simply, to enforce the law and protect our community.”Oh my, you can just enforce the law in East Hampton (the Hamptons have been referred to in Dan's Papers as "the sixth borough") but in Farmingville, they would be racist if they "very simply, enforce the law." Just like in Babylon Village, the apartments over stores are rented, but it is prohibited in liberal Huntington "Village," on the basis that the space above stores can only be used for commercial purposes. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 13:44:05 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 13:36:10 2012. Liberals in East Hampton don't mind them coming over the borders illegally, just not over the town line from Riverhead. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 13:49:20 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 13:44:05 2012. ROFLMAO! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:51:45 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 13:44:05 2012. You really mean Republicans don't want them in THEIR neighborhoods....that's what you really wanted to say. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 13:55:25 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:51:45 2012. No, I meant what I said. The majority of the population in the Hamptons and especially East Hampton is liberal. My "Republican Community" is integrated. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 14:19:03 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 13:55:25 2012. "My "Republican Community" is integrated."lol...NOW THAT'S A LAUGH.....COME OVER THE BORDER INTO REPUBLICAN TERRITORY IN NASSAU COUNTY AND YOU WON'T SEE THE OPEN ARMS TO MINORITIES. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 14:26:55 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 14:19:03 2012. You make no sense streetie.Nassau County is all minorities now. Central Long Island, from Hempstead all the way out east past Central Islip is all minorities. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 14:30:09 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 14:19:03 2012. Oh yeah, the Hamptons and Huntington are FULL of Republicans.Liberals feel that "gave at the office" by shedding crocodile tears for minorities; they just don't want to see them on "their own time." |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 14:39:07 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 14:26:55 2012. "Nassau County is all minorities now."Wow.....really? I must have missed that news bulletin the other day on Rush's talk show...oh well....so I guess Oyster Bay Cove, Kings Point, Old Brookville, East Williston, Williston Park,Plainview, Bethpage, Massapequa Park, Woodmere, Floral Park, New Hyde Park.....ok.....now they are full of minorities according to YOUR RECORDS from the National Enquirer. Good show! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 3 14:53:00 2012, in response to Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:20:36 2012. And over in Westhampton, they're trying to keep the Orthodox Jews out by refusing permission to build an eruv. After all, one Westhampton resident said, nobody wants another Lawrence.These WASPS can all go fuck themselves. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 15:01:00 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 3 14:53:00 2012. "These WASPS can all go fuck themselves."I doubt that there are many of them left out East. Changing demographics....you know. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 15:09:32 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 3 14:53:00 2012. You think they're WASPS? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 15:15:16 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 14:39:07 2012. there are still some whites but Long Island is very minority now. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jul 3 15:16:37 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 14:30:09 2012. They only let Obama land his private jet at the "Vineyards" because he's half white! |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 15:24:07 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 3 14:53:00 2012. Lawrence of Arabia? I doubt you'd find one among Jews. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 3 15:29:09 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 14:26:55 2012. I beg to differ. Levittown is still a lily-white enclave, and every town east of MP 19 on the LIRR Babylon Branch (except Freeport) is overwhelmingly WASPs, as well. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 15:31:46 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 14:30:09 2012. Liberals feel that "gave at the office" by shedding crocodile tears for minorities; they just don't want to see them on "their own time."Danger Zone: One has to remember that the Hamptons have a sizable contingent of year round residents that do not have the same demographics as the seasonal residents. I'd also note that the seasonal residents that we're talking about may not be *racist* per se, but merely "classist". In other words, they have no qualms about non-whites of their own income and social classes, but they don't want the poorer residents of any race nearby. And FWIW, I suspect most of us wouldn't want to see our neighbour's home being used as a home for a large group of migrants*. *FWIW, I tend to make a difference between illegal mother-daughter conversions which host one to three extra people (e.g. young couple, single mom with kids) in extra space in a suburban home which should be legalized to push down market rate rents, and 20 migrants in a house. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 15:36:19 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 3 15:29:09 2012. and every town east of MP 19 on the LIRR Babylon Branch (except Freeport) is overwhelmingly WASPsWASPs? Merrick? Bellmore? Massapequa? Funny joke dude. Italians aren't WASPs, Jews aren't WASPs, and neither are Irish people... Levittown is still a lily-white enclave Amazingly, it's less and less so everyday with more Hispanics and Indians moving in, and Levittown is rather prolish in terms of its makeup too, so it's not what I'd use to describe stalwart upper middle class neighbourhood either. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 15:41:12 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 15:36:19 2012. You took the troll bait. To the element, WASP simply means middle class white conservative. The element will say anything.When you get off exit 30 on the SSP and go south it's like Little Italy with all those Italian delis and restaurants. Long Island has seen a huge growth in minority population. Especially in the last 10 years it seems. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 15:55:44 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 15:31:46 2012. Oh, so "racist" is bad, but "classist" is OK? Latino immigrants just happen to be unfortunate enough to belong to the wrong "class." So sad. What's a liberal to do?And most of us wouldn't want to see a home near us being used for a large group of anyone in a single family house. But when this happens in Medford or Farmingville, and the people complain, the people are called racists. In the Hamptons it's so ... so ... unfortunate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 3 16:03:36 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 3 15:29:09 2012. LOL! What is a WASP to you? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:08:09 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 3 15:29:09 2012. You don't know the Babylon Line very well then. Amityville is highly mixed, Copiague is becoming heavily Hispanic now, but includes the following non-WASPs for most of the remainder of the population: Polish, Italian, Irish. You won't find many Union League members in Lindenhurst, and Babylon has one of the older black communities on Long Island. Walk the streets of some of these communities, and then walk the streets of Huntington "Village" and tell me what you see.Or maybe you don't understand what "WASP" means. Go to the Fairway in Plainview, beloved of Liberals With Plenty of Money, and you will see a fair mix of Hispanics among the lovely white faces. Of course, the Hispanics are working the registers, stocking the shelves and sweeping the floors. Integration, Liberal-style. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 3 16:19:19 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jul 3 15:16:37 2012. ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 16:21:35 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:08:09 2012. Of course, the Hispanics are working the registers, stocking the shelves and sweeping the floors. Integration, Liberal-style.To a certain extent, that's income problem. Even if you swapped the Hispanic immigrants for whites, the incomes that those jobs pay just simply aren't enough to permit them to live in majority white neighbourhoods composed of single family houses. And even if we pay the Latino immigrants (or poor blacks or poor whites) $100K per year to work at Fairway, that doesn't mean that they would immediately want to live in that type of neighbourhood. I'm in the South Shore in a Zone 7 area, and I've had family members say that they prefer the old neighbourhood where they can play their music low and nobody will bother them for it, or they simply prefer to live in equivalent majority black areas because they don't like white people. They like the house, but they don't like the neighbours, and the dynamics of who lives where are not as clear cut as one may think. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:26:27 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 16:21:35 2012. To a certain extent, it's also a union problem, another thing which Liberals claim to support. Most of the standard supermarkets on Long Island are union shops. Fairway isn't. Wow, would I love to see a picket line there.Why do you use British spellings? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 16:39:24 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:08:09 2012. Copaigue has been Hispanic for a very very long time. |
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Posted by Dan on Tue Jul 3 17:05:48 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 15:41:12 2012. WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 17:07:44 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 14:19:03 2012. Why don't you come and show me around, cutie pie? |
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Posted by Dan on Tue Jul 3 17:12:41 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 14:26:55 2012. Nassau County is 77.7% white as per the 2010 US Census:http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/36059.html White persons, percent, 2011 (a) 77.7% Black persons, percent, 2011 (a) 12.0% American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2011 (a) 0.5% Asian persons, percent, 2011 (a) 8.2% 7.8% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander persons, percent, 2011 (a) 0.1% |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:16:20 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 14:26:55 2012. Nassau County is all minorities now.Geez, I went A WHITE pesons wake/funeral in BELLMORE recently. So you are FULL OF SHIT as usual. Last time I CHECKED Belmore was in Nasaau Aounty.. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 17:16:59 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:26:27 2012. Most of the standard supermarkets on Long Island are union shops.But those union wages aren't enough to pay for Plainview/Syosset level housing. Why do you use British spellings? (White) Girls seem to like when I spell centre that way. :-) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:22:11 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 15:15:16 2012. there are still some whites but Long Island is very minority now.HORSESHIT, SOMETHING YOU ARE WELL KNOWN 9OR.... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:26:08 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 3 15:29:09 2012. stop making SENSE, LOL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:33:54 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Dan on Tue Jul 3 17:05:48 2012. +1000 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 3 17:37:39 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Dan on Tue Jul 3 17:05:48 2012. So JayZee was wrong. Big surprise. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:41:30 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:26:27 2012. Why do you use British spellings He thinks he's Jersy Mike |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:42:02 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:26:27 2012. Why do you use British spellings He thinks he's Jersey Mike |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:42:19 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 16:26:27 2012. Why do you use British spellings He thinks he's Jersey Mike |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:46:01 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 3 13:44:05 2012. Thank Yo;.....MISTER ISLIP |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jul 3 17:53:17 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 3 16:19:19 2012. What put you tp sleep?The part that YOU never will vacation at Martha's Vineyard in your private jet OR That Obama is half white? Do you still have that Flicker account "All White Folks is the Devil"? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 3 17:56:48 2012, in response to Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 3 13:20:36 2012. Complete insult to the legal immigrants of the past and present who built/build up this country. This is the DNC's new slave class. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 17:58:14 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 3 16:19:19 2012. He mne sense. Give your happy horseshit a rest...PLEASE |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Jul 3 18:00:31 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 15:15:16 2012. While there are plenty of minorities, Long Island is stile quite White. Look at the NY Times Census map.... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jul 3 18:09:14 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jul 3 17:53:17 2012. ??no |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 3 18:13:13 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by JayMan on Tue Jul 3 18:00:31 2012. If it was still 90% or more white I would agree with you.Go out there and see for yourself. Go to Robert Moses Beach. Jones Beach. Sunrise Mall. Long Island is very minority these days. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 3 18:20:14 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Illegals Stream In, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 3 17:56:48 2012. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 18:20:43 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 17:16:59 2012. Most of the standard supermarkets on Long Island are union shops.But those union wages aren't enough to pay for Plainview/Syosset level housing. And what does that have to do with Fairway being a nonunion shop? |
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Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 3 18:26:01 2012, in response to Re: Tension for East Hampton as Immigrants Stream In, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 3 17:16:59 2012. How do the (Black) Girls like it spelt? |
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