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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 25 22:31:53 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:29:23 2012.

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Is that possible?I remember seeing him on 60 Minutes, something like 20 years ago, and he was completely batshit IMO then.

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Re: Wrong: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:32:25 2012, in response to Re: Wrong: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 25 22:27:33 2012.

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I give the law until January 2015. Polls are showing that the Arizona electorate is moving from the extreme right to a more centrist position, and as such between now and the 2014 elections the legislature (and governorship) will move towards less extreme positions. I believe that someone is going to have the "bright idea" that the law is costing too much to defend from lawsuits and it will be removed without SCOTUS action.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 22:33:04 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:19:40 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sheriff Joe is a IDIOT
........
LOL

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:34:19 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 22:33:04 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm just glad he's out there and not around here. :)

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:34:25 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:30:23 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What you don't always hear about is the fact that he goes out of his way to make life a living hell for anyone that runs against him. He'll use (or abuse) his powers to get every skeleton in your closet (and those of anyone you know) out into the open. Hence no credible candidate runs against him for fear of having their life ruined.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:36:53 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:34:19 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He's my sheriff though. I say you guys can have him as I don't want him anymore.

I'm still washing my hand from the one time I shook his.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:38:44 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:34:25 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yep ... if that's the case, then voters are getting PRECISELY what they deserve and why Phoenix and environs is becoming a shithole. :(

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 25 22:39:36 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 25 21:21:13 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
thanks.

and please let me know when you name your favorite Italian restaurants in NYC. you have named your favorite pizzerias but not restaurants.



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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:40:02 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:36:53 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Aw *HELL* no! :)

Bad enough we get bikers from Long Island around here. Heh.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:42:00 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:38:44 2012.

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I take offense to your shithole comment.

The problem is that Arpaio is the most powerful politician in the state and nobody in any position of power stands up to him because if they try to he'll abuse his power to make their lives miserable.

The one person that tried to stand up to him, Mary Rose Wilcox, just got a $975,000 settlement from the county.

http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2012/05/14/wilcox-awarded-975k-in-lawsuit-vs-arpaio-thomas/


Wilcox awarded $975K in lawsuit vs Arpaio, Thomas
By The Associated Press
Published: May 14, 2012 at 7:42 am
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Mary Rose Wilcox (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

A federal judge has awarded Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox $975,000 to settle her claims against Sheriff Joe Arpaio and ex-County Attorney Andrew Thomas.

The claim stems from allegations of abuse of power and prosecutions and lawsuits motivated more by politics than criminal behavior.

The Arizona Republic says Wilcox was awarded the money on Friday.

Former County Manager David Smith reached an agreement on the settlement amount last month based on legal and cost analysis by retired Judge Christopher Skelly.

Skelly acted as a mediator for the county and determined that Wilcox’s settlement would be cheaper than litigating it in court.

A 2010 resolution approved by the supervisors gave Smith authority to negotiate settlements relating to legal claims in longstanding disputes between county officials and Arpaio and Thomas.


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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:43:40 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 22:42:00 2012.

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Welll ... apologies for the comment, but the reputation of Maricopa around the country isn't what it could be, especially for businesses who want no part of the "charm." Lose him and things would be a whole lot better.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 23:16:47 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:40:02 2012.

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lol

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 23:27:15 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:43:40 2012.

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I agree. He and Brewer are some of the biggest economic impediments to this state. Both will be gone in 2 years so I'm not super worried.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:30:02 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 23:27:15 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Indeed. I was kinda saddened when Motorola threw in the towel. :(

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 23:44:22 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:30:02 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did you see Brewer on John King?


http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/06/25/exp-jk-brewer-az-law.cnn

The worst thing Janet Napolitano has ever done for the state is to allow that brainless idiot with a bad hairstylist to become governor.


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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 25 23:44:45 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 22:40:02 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Funny, when we were there, all the pussies were hiding.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:54:38 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 23:44:22 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nah ... I don't believe in "instant news" ... but I'll take your word for it. Seen her enough times on "real news" even tonight. :)

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:55:24 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 25 23:44:45 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How do pussies hide on bikes?

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:00:00 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:54:38 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She is Sarah Palin without the attractiveness of Palin.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:03:29 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:00:00 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ouch. :)

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:05:10 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:03:29 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They're both dumb as bricks politicians that look like bigger idiots whenever they're in front of the camera. At least Palin's voice is somewhat pleasant and Palin has a competent hairstylist. Brewer has neither. Hell, just a competent hairstylist would help Brewer's image.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:09:26 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:05:10 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Or 8 inches of duct tape. :)

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:12:17 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:09:26 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I still love my home state and probably won't leave. I just want the doggone politicians here to stop embarrassing us. Where's Marion Barry or Rod Blagojevich when you need them?

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:20:53 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:12:17 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
One's in jail and the other is in a halfway house. :)

Dewd ... I live in Noo Yawk. 'nuff said. Heh.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:24:19 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:20:53 2012.

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At least the mayor of Phoenix isn't trying to ban me from being able to exercise the choice to purchase a Big Gulp...

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:28:06 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:24:19 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, I don't live anywhere near the city, so let the good people of NYC get the government THEY deserve too. :)

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 00:41:11 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:55:24 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
hiding from them

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:53:44 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 00:41:11 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bikers are afraid of cats? LOL

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jun 26 01:07:45 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 22:33:04 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I wish Arpaio was my sheriff.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 26 05:24:38 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:24:19 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
With summer temps over 110, you need them there.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 07:59:51 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 25 14:04:59 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bump.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 08:01:00 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 25 22:14:29 2012.

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Yes, you idiot. Otherwise I wouldn't be asking, you moron.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 08:16:36 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Mon Jun 25 23:44:22 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Didn't Janet Napolitano hold the same position as Brewer on illegal immigration until she went to Washington?

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 08:18:45 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 26 00:53:44 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
ask me again in 2 weeks

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 08:23:46 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TonyG on Tue Jun 26 00:12:17 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now that the obamites have decided to act like spoiled children and go after law enforcement in Arizona instead of illegal aliens, I wonder how long it is before English will become your 2nd language as crime expands exponentially in your toxic state..

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Re: Wrong: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 26 08:47:22 2012, in response to Re: Wrong: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 25 13:19:52 2012.

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Yes, we agree. The court only considered the federalism issue.

What I'm saying is that it will take extremely intelligent enforcement of what's left of the law for it to pass muster with Justice Kennedy (and probably Roberts too). And intelligent enforcement and Joe Arpaio don't go together.



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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 26 13:22:22 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 08:16:36 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She was probably behind the increase in deportations of illegals. I think she differs in the "papers please" aspect tho.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 17:46:26 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 26 13:22:22 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She was far more proactive than that.

Link to April 2006 Article


While she was far more proactive by deploying the National Guard to secure the border, she also advocated for the Federal Government to do its job is securing the borders. It would seem that her position has "evolved" since she was governor.




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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 26 20:30:31 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 17:46:26 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She called out the guard to prod the Feds to do their job. Gov. Richardson next door in New Mexico did the same thing.

You're aware that they're still going to deport criminals and other illegals still right?

Here's a less partisan bio of hers and her immigration history

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 28 21:57:39 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 08:01:00 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No wonder the Chats were down for almost two days, you were actually right.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 28 23:08:19 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 25 14:04:59 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bump for the goner.

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Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN

Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jun 28 23:08:44 2012, in response to Re: Arizona immigration STRUCK DOWN, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 28 21:57:39 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong again Dan Lawrence. As usual.

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