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45 years ago, today

Posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 12:47:36 2012

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the USS Liberty was attacked by Israeli planes:

http://www.gtr5.com/

a 'so-called accident' or not, thirty four Americans were killed(murdered) in the attack and another 174 were wounded.

If we are to remember what happened in 'other' countries, what happened to THIS country MUST BE REMEMBERED AS WELL!



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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 12:57:37 2012, in response to 45 years ago, today, posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 12:47:36 2012.

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Either you're an anti-semite (which I suspect with your birthday posts for hitler) or you are completely uninformed. Ten official US investigations and 3 official Israeli Inquiries have all concluded the attack was a tragic mistake. Israel officially apologized, offered aid as soon as they realized what happened, and paid about 13 million as reparations to the U.S. and the families.

But I suspect you don't care about that.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 13:04:32 2012, in response to 45 years ago, today, posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 12:47:36 2012.

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It WAS an accident. Israel was at war, and shit like this happens. This wasn't a USS Panay-like incident.

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monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by dand124 on Fri Jun 8 13:08:19 2012, in response to 45 years ago, today, posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 12:47:36 2012.

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http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=114734

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=928337

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=920909

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=941938

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monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by dand124 on Fri Jun 8 13:10:04 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 13:04:32 2012.

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you're responding to someone who is Nazi. see my other posts in this thread

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Re: monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 13:14:45 2012, in response to monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by dand124 on Fri Jun 8 13:10:04 2012.

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I'm not going there. All I am doing is correcting the record. The attack was a mistake by the IAF which thought the boat was Egyptian. Back then, the US and Israel were not allies and there was no exchange of intelligence. The fog of war, itchy trigger fingers and inferior French radar systems were all to blame.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 8 14:25:31 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 12:57:37 2012.

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Sarge, please...don't confuse the issue with facts.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jun 8 14:45:32 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 8 14:25:31 2012.

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Someone's apparent bias is a fact.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 14:48:12 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 12:57:37 2012.

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You know who he's getting his news from. The Maury Povitch and Conny Chung of OTChat, both prolific anti-Semites

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 8 21:15:25 2012, in response to 45 years ago, today, posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 12:47:36 2012.

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While we try to open official relations to hezzy, we never remember them though

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 8 21:21:04 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 12:57:37 2012.

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Mono hates Jews. Body, Mind and Spirit.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 21:24:36 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 8 21:21:04 2012.

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So do a few others here and they are not so subtle about it. Heck - one even is proud to be known as an anti-Semite.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 21:30:47 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 14:48:12 2012.

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Poor little pussy boy biker ... doesn't like getting wet. Can't eat after midnight either? :)



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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 21:31:49 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 21:24:36 2012.

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Stevie is an asshole, therefore everybody is an antisemite. LOL

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 21:41:53 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 8 21:21:04 2012.

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While he has anti semitic, pro nazi posts, I think he's more of an attention seeker/troll, trying to shock on this board, than an anti-semite. After all, the nazis hated his people, the homos, also.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 21:43:06 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Jun 8 21:21:04 2012.

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Yet while you call every conservative and republican a nazi (and call me an idiot) you never call monorail a nazi!!

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:44:00 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 21:31:49 2012.

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'Stevie'?

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 21:49:57 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:44:00 2012.

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Yeah, that guy who thinks calling others antisemites is going to buy him something ...

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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:51:18 2012, in response to 45 years ago, today, posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 12:47:36 2012.

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The Cover Up

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law. In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf



Anti-Semitism and the Anti-American Apologists

The USS Liberty Memorial web site abhors the racist and extreme positions taken by antiSemitic, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theorist and other such groups which often seek to identify with us and to usurp our story as their own. We have no connection with and do not support or encourage support from any of these groups including National Alliance, National Vanguard, The New Order, National Socialists, The French Connection, Liberty Lobby, American Free Press, Republic Broadcasting, USS Liberty Radio Hour, Storm Front or other such groups. We wish harm to no one and encourage social justice and equality for everyone; we seek only accountability for the criminal acts perpetrated against us and can do that without help from hate-mongers.

On the Israeli side, the group of pro-Israel, anti-American critics of our story, while small, persists in launching loud, vicious ad hominem attacks on anyone who attempts to discuss the deliberateness of the attack. These anti-American apologists refuse to discuss the facts of the case. Instead, they rely on propaganda and charge anyone who questions the Israeli position with being antiSemitic.

For detailed and authoritative accounts of the power and influence of the pro-Israel lobby, please see The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy by Mearsheimer and Walt and The Pro-Israel Lobby by Edward Herman.

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Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:51:34 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 21:49:57 2012.

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oh....

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monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by dand124 on Fri Jun 8 21:54:07 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:51:18 2012.

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Re: monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 8 22:00:55 2012, in response to Re: monorail the NAZI Re: 45 years ago, today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 13:14:45 2012.

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I'm not going there

Mr. Alweg already did.

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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 9 05:25:15 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:51:18 2012.

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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 9 05:46:09 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 9 05:25:15 2012.

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Not to get in the middle of someone else's thing, but isn't she the PINNACLE of the word "librul?" The thing that I've pointed out in the past that got paint slapped on me for bringing that up? Ya know ... "code words?" :(

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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 9 20:09:59 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by monorail on Fri Jun 8 21:51:18 2012.

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www.gtr5.com is credited with a video explaining who REALLY brought the slaves to America.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8533633099218104720.

Trying to get a lead on who gtr5.com is, all I find is:

registrant-firstname: Oneandone
registrant-lastname: Private Registration
registrant-organization: 1&1 Internet, Inc. - http://1and1.com/contact


This is to make it harder for Mossad to assassinate the website owner.



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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 9 20:25:19 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 9 20:09:59 2012.

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This is to make it harder for Mossad to assassinate the website owner.

Why, because it's actually true?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 9 20:30:23 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 9 20:25:19 2012.

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Or to prevent people like me from connecting the owner name to other websites.

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Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/'

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 9 20:55:05 2012, in response to Re: 45 years ago, today-From'http://www.gtr5.com/', posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 9 20:30:23 2012.

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paraclete.net ... Microsoft IIS 6.0. lol

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