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Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:50:08 2012

Obama’s Bain Capital attacks may be working with battleground state voters
By Holly Bailey | The Ticket


President Barack Obama's re-election campaign has come under fire for its attacks on Mitt Romney's time at Bain Capital—with several Democrats, including Bill Clinton and Newark, N.J., Mayor Cory Booker, suggesting Obama's focus on private equity companies could backfire.
But if a new poll of voters in key swing states is any judge, the Obama campaign is unlikely to drop its Bain strategy anytime soon.
A new Purple Strategies poll found that a plurality of voters in 12 key battleground states—Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin—are skeptical of Romney's argument that private equity companies create jobs. Among those polled, 47 percent say "private equity hurts workers," compared to 38 percent who say it "helps" the economy.
In Ohio, the numbers were starkest: 49 percent of those surveyed said private equity companies put profits over workers, compared to 33 percent who said private equity "helps" the economy. Eighteen percent said they were "not sure."
In Florida, the gap wasn't as big, but it still favored Obama: 47 percent of those polled said private equity hurts workers, compared to 40 percent who said it helps the economy.
Meanwhile, voters in two other key swing states—Colorado and Virginia—were evenly split on their views of private equity. In Colorado, 44 percent said it hurts workers, compared to 43 percent who said it helps the economy. In Virginia, 44 percent said it helps the economy, compared to 42 percent who said it hurts workers.
(Results for other key states were not disclosed. The poll has a plus or minus 2.2 percent margin of error.)

The poll isn't a great sign for Romney, who has cited his work at Bain Capital as proof that he's helped to create jobs around the country.
In their analysis of the findings, the pollsters note that Obama's Bain strategy is a "classic wedge issue," consolidating Democrats and winning over a plurality of independent voters, 48 percent of whom say private equity hurts, compared to 38 percent who say it helps.
"While the overall results on this argument appear to bode well for the president, the electoral map dynamics may argue for a more subtle state-by-state strategy," the pollsters write.
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 17:53:21 2012, in response to Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:50:08 2012.

the element does not even know or care about Bain. the Obama element votes based on emotion.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:56:00 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 17:53:21 2012.

good to know that the anti-Obama element votes based on reason.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 17:57:21 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:56:00 2012.

Oh please. Tell us how New York will be nuked if o'bummer loses.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:14:33 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:56:00 2012.

the element of Obama voters, vote based on race, gender, or some other reason. most Democrat voters are like that. emotion.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 18:16:42 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:14:33 2012.

the element of Obama voters, vote based on race, gender, or some other reason. most Democrat voters are like that. emotion.

It sounds like you are talking about the basis of the anti-Obama vote.

I mean....who in their right mind would really vote for a Kenyan Muslim for President?


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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 18:16:48 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:14:33 2012.

If voters voted based on logic alone the republicans would have gone the way of the Whigs 30ish years ago.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:20:11 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 18:16:42 2012.

It sounds like you are talking about the basis of the anti-Obama vote.

I mean....who in their right mind would really vote for a Kenyan Muslim for President?

No, it's the element of people who vote for Democrats. Emotion. They are either mad about something, or like to look down on people.

I know. I come from a family of Democrats.
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:21:04 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 18:16:48 2012.

you're an example of the emotional female Democrat voter.
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 18:23:02 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 18:16:42 2012.

"It sounds like you are talking about the basis of the anti-Obama vote.

I mean....who in their right mind would really vote for a fucking failure for President?

Slight correction made
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 8 18:26:15 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 17:53:21 2012.

I love Bain and it's sister companies. Sure they contribute to Obama 10:1, so they'll be spared anything after the election, but they all have saved all my favorite stores, supermarkets, hotels, apartments.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 18:28:37 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:21:04 2012.

Beats being an ideologically crazed hater.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 18:29:48 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 18:23:02 2012.

Too many did in 2004.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:30:00 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 18:28:37 2012.

who hates?

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 18:36:54 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:30:00 2012.

bing-bong hates them what disagrees with her.

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Swing State Voters "Swinging" to Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 18:48:52 2012, in response to Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:50:08 2012.

For your gluteal discomfort

I knew you'd post this (and the silly Times story about the SCOTUS's popularity) because both stories were specifically created to give lefties something to hold onto as Obama's campaign continues to go over a cliff.
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 18:55:10 2012, in response to Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 17:50:08 2012.

If this is the case, then you have nothing to worry about and yet night after night you scour the internet for little tidbits of news to persuade up few poor souls who really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Go out and enjoy your life - yoda and leave us poor, unenlightened souls to be dumbfounded and disappointed in November.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 18:56:12 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 18:55:10 2012.

Wisconsin hurt. Don't let them assert otherwise.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 19:03:07 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 18:56:12 2012.

Oh yeah, it did. They are finally seeing the light.:

O'bummer in 2012 -
Will Be Out Of A Job!
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 8 19:09:07 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 18:56:12 2012.

Remind me again who was in charge of the WI Senate?

Now tell me who runs it now.

Thank you.
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 19:30:22 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 19:03:07 2012.

Doubt that. People distrust Romney because he's a Mormon Bishop. Mormons are distrusted in many places.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 20:16:55 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 8 18:56:12 2012.

Wisconsin isn't a swing state. The Walker recall means nothing WRT the national election. The exit polls proved it....something like10 points in favor of the President.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 20:38:38 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 19:30:22 2012.

Mormons are distrusted in places where bigots live. Bigots distrust Mormons. Your close association with certain posters on this board is starting to show. Smarten up Dan. You're going to lose your soul in exchange for an occasional pat on the head. Is it worth it?

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 20:43:18 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 20:16:55 2012.

Since the recall vote, the Dow's been up 3 straight days after o'bummer caused it to tank. Seems to me that this is the exit poll that counts. Your fool is toast in November.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 21:07:04 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 20:38:38 2012.

Sorry to get off topic and change the subject (or LuchAAA the subject) but why aren't you in Lake George? (Unless you are and are posting from there)

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 21:19:46 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 21:07:04 2012.

Friends up there said not to make the trip - weather was less than ideal. Laconia??? Perhaps

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 21:26:19 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 19:30:22 2012.

There's also his consistent flipflopping on important issues leaving the thinking public (which excludes many) unable to trust him.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 8 21:27:23 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 21:19:46 2012.

I was up Tuesday for a day trip. Long day for a round trip in one day. Actually went to demo bikes as the demos aren't crowded early in the week. Tried 4 bikes. Going up early tomorrow morning with the family (by car) for an overnight to Sunday. Maybe an Americade/Laconia trip after I retire from USPS and have the time.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 8 23:12:38 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 20:16:55 2012.

LOL!!! And your hypocritical self would be saying the opposite of the opposite happened. At least you are consistent in your hypocricy!!

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 8 23:13:28 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 19:30:22 2012.

LOL!!!!!

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 8 23:15:16 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 21:26:19 2012.

LOL!!!! Yes, of course, the "smart" voters like Democrats...the rest of the country is morons. We know the propaganda

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 11:42:03 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 8 23:12:38 2012.

Says he who hates people enough to take away their medical care.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 11:48:29 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 20:43:18 2012.

The Dows been up because the EU has finally decided to bail out Spain. Not everything economic is domestic. Not everything economic is political. Although I could see Willard being willing to let them crash and burn, instead of encouraging them to resolve this.

Don't forget he wanted to destroy the US auto industry.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 11:55:16 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 17:53:21 2012.

And conservatives don't???

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 11:58:33 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 8 18:20:11 2012.

See here: The Myth of the Rational Voter.

You'd be crazy to think that voters on either side typically vote using logic.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 11:59:40 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 20:38:38 2012.

Really?

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 12:00:40 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 8 21:26:19 2012.

leaving the thinking public (which excludes many most)

Corrected.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 12:25:27 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 11:55:16 2012.

Mostly they vote on ideology, which mandates NO thought, just blinded adherence, and eliminates the need to exercise any common sense or humanity.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 12:50:03 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jun 8 23:15:16 2012.

IT's not propaganda.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 13:37:48 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 12:25:27 2012.

My bad....I forgot fear. Fear is an emotion that conservatives thrive on.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 9 14:44:27 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 11:58:33 2012.

You make the same false economic arguments.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 9 14:45:10 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 12:25:27 2012.

i.e. religion.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 9 15:13:04 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 13:37:48 2012.

I'm no liberal, but the Tea party's refusal to compromise is one of the main causes of our do-nothing Congress. Add Romney's Mormonism to the mix and enough moderate Republicans may sit this election out. I'm watching Indiana, where the Tea party ended senator Richard Lugar's moderate career.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 15:13:56 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 9 14:44:27 2012.

First, what do you mean?

Second, I'm not saying that Caplan is correct, I only used his work as a demonstration of the irrationality of the vast majority of voters. My blog posts here and here get closer to what is actually going on.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 9 15:33:03 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 15:13:56 2012.

You argue against outsourcing.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 9 16:10:50 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by JayMan on Sat Jun 9 11:58:33 2012.

Republicans think their candidate will creates jobs, keep America safe, or not raise taxes. Democrats think about none of this when voting. They vote as women or minorities or intellectuals first, Americans secondary or tertiary. THIW.

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 9 16:13:27 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 9 16:10:50 2012.

Nah ... first thing "we" worry about is where the white women at? :)

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 16:14:22 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 9 16:13:27 2012.

Right here, sweetie.....

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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 9 16:15:59 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by bingbong on Sat Jun 9 16:14:22 2012.

Cara Mia! :)
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Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 9 16:21:14 2012, in response to Re: Swing State Voters Agree with President that Romney/Bain Destroy Jobs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 9 16:13:27 2012.

LOL

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