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Posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 10:27:27 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mark-zuckerberg/9297450/Facebook-founder-Mark-Zuckerberg-left-no-tip-after-Rome-lunch.htmlHe may be worth $20 billion, but when Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg took his new wife to lunch during their secret honeymoon in Rome he spent just 32 euros (£26) – and did not leave a tip. The owners of the kosher restaurant in Rome's Jewish Ghetto – a historic quarter in the centre of the city – were surprised when Mr Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan walked away without leaving a gratuity. Their bill came to just 32 euros after a lunch consisting of deep-fried artichokes – a Roman Jewish speciality – fried pumpkin flowers and ravioli stuffed with sea bass and artichokes. Instead of wine or beer they opted for a bottle of water and a pot of tea. Waiters at Nonna Betta, which specialises in Roman Jewish cuisine, were amazed by Mr Zuckerberg's parsimony, not just because of his huge wealth but because of Americans' reputation for tipping generously, as is expected of them at home. It was not a case of not enjoying the meal, said the owner of the restaurant. "I asked him 'how was it?' and he said 'very good'", the owner, identified only as Umberto, told Corriere della Sera newspaper. "I had gone up to him and said 'Are you ...?' and he said 'Yes'." It was not the first time that the multi-billionaire chose not to tip – he reportedly did the same thing the night before at Pierluigi, a historic trattoria near Campo de' Fiori, a pizza in the heart of Rome. The couple's honeymoon was a closely guarded secret until a Polish tourist spotted them in the Sistine Chapel, snapped a blurry photograph, and posted it on Twitter – Facebook's social network rival. True to his casual style, the young internet tycoon was wearing jeans, a T-shirt and trainers. They left Rome on Monday, with speculation that they might be heading towards the Amalfi Coast south of Naples before heading back to the US. Mr Zuckerberg, 28, whose shares in Facebook are worth nearly $20 billion, married his long-time girlfriend on May 19 in Palo Alto, California. Their wedding took place a day after Facebook's initial public offering on the NASDAQ stock exchange. The couple had planned the exchange of vows for four months, but surprised their guests, who thought they were to celebrate Miss Chan's recent graduation from medical school, a celebrity magazine reported. Mr Zuckerberg, Time magazine's Person of the Year in 2010, started Facebook in his Harvard University dorm room eight years ago, before dropping out of the Ivy League school. Ms Chan just graduated from medical school at the University of California, San Francisco. The couple met while at Harvard. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 30 10:36:19 2012, in response to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 10:27:27 2012. ???Is tipping customary in Italy? Many European establishments include a service charge and tipping is not expected. |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 10:38:26 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by AlM on Wed May 30 10:36:19 2012. apparently American tourists tip although locals do not. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 30 11:06:01 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 10:38:26 2012. Who cares? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 30 11:52:52 2012, in response to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 10:27:27 2012. And that's how rich people stay rich LOL |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 13:12:54 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by AlM on Wed May 30 10:36:19 2012. My experience is that typically you "round up" for good service, rather than an American style percentage tip. So for a lunch of 32-and-change-Euros with good service you would give them 35 and everyone is happy.It is a bit more delicate where credit cards are involved, as almost all credit cards here are done by PIN and not by signature on a piece of paper (where you would write in the tip), so you don't always have the ability to leave a tip. In those cases you would give something close to the equivalent of "rounding up" in cash. This is the case in Switzerland as well as in the German-speaking part of Italy. I'm sure SMAZ will fill us in if customs are different in Rome. Then we'll know if Mr. Zuckerberg did not follow the timeless advice of "When in Rome..." |
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Posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 13:18:03 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 13:12:54 2012. German-speaking part of Italy.i didn't there was such a thing. how did it happen. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 13:19:56 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 10:38:26 2012. Italy is one of the rudest nations on Earth. They don't politely form queues when waiting for something, they don't tip, they pretty much don't give ground to anyone else. After the cruise ship debacle earlier this year I recall an in depth article on why the American and Italian passengers behaved so differently, but I lost the link. It documents the disparity of social customs well. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 30 13:26:06 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 13:18:03 2012. World War I. The "South Tyrol." The Italians were on the winning side and the Austrians on the losing side. Bits of what was formerly Austria-Hungary became Italy.There are also still Slovenian speaking folks near Trieste for the same reason. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 13:47:02 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by dand124 on Wed May 30 13:18:03 2012. World War I.Italy took the region known as "South Tirol" from Austria and kept it. Today it is about 65% German speaking and 35% Italian. All signs are in both languages, and the cities (and their train stations) have German and Italian names ("Meran/Merano"). |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 30 15:34:44 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 13:12:54 2012. For a 32.50 euro meal using the X.18 I'm familiar with the tip comes to 5.85 euros and I'd round up to 6 euros.Rounding up the 32.50 to 35 euros makes 2.5 euros. However, tax and wage laws in the US take tipping into account for wait staff, etc. I wonder what those laws are in Poland? |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 30 15:42:54 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 13:47:02 2012. South Tyrol. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 15:49:58 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 30 15:34:44 2012. You've pretty much got it. The x.15 or x.18 or x.20 are the custom in the US because restaurant staff are paid lesser wages to reflect anticipated tips.The laws here don't allow for discounting wages to reflect anticipated tips like they do in the US. So the "round up" is really just a way of saying "thank you and please keep the change". There don't seem to be any hard and fast rules. If a meal costs 32, then 35 makes sense (40 would be considered overdoing it). If it is 34, though, you wouldn't round up to 35 -- you'd go to 40. As the bill goes up, the "round up" goes up as well. A meal costing 92 would go to 100, not 95. A meal costing 365 would go to 400. So it is kinda sorta like 10% but probably a little less in the end. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 30 15:55:51 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 30 15:42:54 2012. He's in Basel. It's spelled Tirol there. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 16:06:58 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by AlM on Wed May 30 15:55:51 2012. Zurich. And Südtirol, but yeah. That. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 16:35:09 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Charles G on Wed May 30 13:12:54 2012. Northern Italy and southern Italy are as different as the American north and American south. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 30 16:45:43 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 16:35:09 2012. The languages more so. Northern Italians can't understand spoken Sicilian. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 30 16:50:47 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by AlM on Wed May 30 16:45:43 2012. I'm referring to drastic cultural differences. Even the food changes dramatically as you move north. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed May 30 18:01:20 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by AlM on Wed May 30 10:36:19 2012. That's what I would ask. I constantly hear how you're not supposed to tip in europe... |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 30 19:19:20 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 30 11:52:52 2012. You mean in a country where they don't typically tip? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 30 19:39:27 2012, in response to Re: Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg left no tip after Rome lunch, posted by AlM on Wed May 30 13:26:06 2012. Is he one of the final five? |
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