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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 23 21:09:34 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 20:58:43 2012.

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Sweeping statement about "left" and "education" is sweeping statement.

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 21:48:06 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 21:05:31 2012.

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You sure? Because the suspension appears to be just SOP.

If it turns out to be false, will Hunter Rogers be sent to jail?

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 21:52:32 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 20:59:33 2012.

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...unless Hunter Rogers and some people he knew decided to "fake the funk" and see how far they could take it in their vindictiveness.

It is up to Hunter Rogers to prove that it's the teacher on the tape.

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Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:08:08 2012, in response to Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 22 19:17:12 2012.

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Yes.....Folks.....there is another story on the OTHER SIDE of the political fence......geez....and I really thought we lived in a FREE society where even our kids had rights and freedom. FOR SHAME....Mr. Principal! ,.....right GP38? lol


http://www.splc.org/news/report_detail.asp?id=743&edition=20

Winter 2001-02 - September 11
Vol. XXIII, No. 1 - Page 7

Principal pulls paper for story critical of Bush

© 2001 Student Press Law Center

TEXAS ' A high school principal yanked every copy of the school newspaper off the shelves, and then publicly said he was 'embarrassed' by the student editor ' all in an apparent reaction to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11.

Lane Haygood, editor of the Round Up of Andrews High School, wrote two stories in the Sept. 10 issue that drew principal Mike Rhodes' ire. One was a humor column criticizing President George W. Bush's domestic policy prior to the terrorist attacks, and the other was a staff editorial that denounced a government plan to store nuclear waste in the areas surrounding Andrews.

Even though the articles were written four weeks prior to the terrorist attacks on the United States, the newspapers did not hit the shelves until the morning of Sept. 11. What resulted was a case of bad timing that has left a bad taste in Haygood's mouth.

After receiving complaints from the community expressing outrage about the articles, Rhodes pulled all the copies of the newspapers off the shelves. Haygood said approximately 1,000 copies of the newspaper were recalled ' issues that cost between $1,500-$2,000 to produce.

'It is with humility and embarrassment that I would like to apologize for the two Opinion Articles in the AHS Round Up,' Rhodes wrote in a letter to the editor in the Andrews County News on Sept. 14. He went on to 'apologize for the irresponsible use' of the school newspaper.

Haygood maintained that the purpose of his column was 'political humor ' not incitement.'




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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 22:10:14 2012, in response to Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:08:08 2012.

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Wow, you must have spent half a day looking for this shit. That's weapons grade butthurt.

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 23 22:13:39 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 22:10:14 2012.

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Yeah, but as usual, your side did it first. Neener-neener! :)

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11 YEAR OLD NEWS Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by dand124 on Wed May 23 22:14:00 2012, in response to Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:08:08 2012.

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please not that this is from 11 years ago

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Re: SPLC LOL

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 23 22:15:09 2012, in response to Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:08:08 2012.

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Just sayin'.

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:16:03 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 22:10:14 2012.

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"Wow, you must have spent half a day looking for this shit. That's weapons grade butthurt."


YOU JUST CALLED YOURSELF A JERK! OMG.....HOW DUMB ARE YOU! TO IMPLY THAT! LOL YOU REALLY HATE THE TRUTH...CAUSE IT HURTS YOUR BUTT SO MUCH....


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/What+can+I+say%3F+In+this+time+of+war,+high+school+students+are+facing...-a083662667

What can I say? In this time of war, high school students are facing ever-stricter limits on their First Amendment rights, especially if their opinions aren't patriotic. (National).

IN ANDREWS, TEX(tai epsion chi) A typesetting language developed by Stanford professor Donald Knuth that is noted for its ability to describe elaborate scientific formulas. Pronounced "tek" or the guttural "tekhhh" (the X is the Greek chi, not the English X), TeX is widely used for mathematical book
..... Click the link for more information.., THERE'S PROBABLY NEVER A GOOD TIME for a writer in the high school newspaper to describe President George W. Bush as a "buffoon."

Andrews is in West Texas, about as conservative a patch of territory as you can find in the United StatesUnited States, officially United States of America, republic (2005 est. pop. 295,734,000), 3,539,227 sq mi (9,166,598 sq km), North America. The United States is the world's third largest country in population and the fourth largest country in area.
..... Click the link for more information.. It's a 45-minute drive from Midland, hometown of a certain American President
President of the United States - The President of the United States
The American President (film) - A Romantic Comedy surrounding a fictional President of the United States and his attempts to win over an attractive lobbyist
. But 18-year-old senior Lane Haygood did not let that stand in the way when he wrote a column attacking the Bush administration, especially its military and foreign policy.

"So far," Haygood wrote, "we are yet to be invaded by a foreign power, though if Bush keeps this harebrained hare·brained
adj.
Foolish; flighty: a harebrained scheme.

Usage Note: The first use of harebrained dates to 1548. presidential policy-making pol·i·cy·mak·ing or pol·i·cy-mak·ing
n.
High-level development of policy, especially official government policy.

adj.
Of, relating to, or involving the making of high-level policy: up, I may just welcome an invasion with open arms."

The timing was uncannily bad. The school newspaper, The Round Up, hit the hallways of Andrews High School Andrews High School may refer to:
Andrews High School (North Carolina) in Andrews, North Carolina
Andrews High School (South Carolina) in Andrews, South Carolina
Andrews High School (Texas) in Andrews, Texas
and local businesses at about midday Sept. 11, only hours after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing thousands.

In the following days, at the order of school officials, every copy of The Round Up that could be found was confiscated con·fis·cate
tr.v. con·fis·cat·ed, con·fis·cat·ing, con·fis·cates
1. To seize (private property) for the public treasury.

2. To seize by or as if by authority. See Synonyms at appropriate.

adj. , both in the school and in the community. The high school principal, Mike Rhodes This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The given reason is: It is an article about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject. , wrote a letter to the local paper apologizing "with humility and embarrassment" for "the irresponsible use of our school newspaper." And Haygood was denounced by many in the community of about 10,000 people, with some calling him a traitor.

The incident is one of many since Sept. 11 where freedom of expression in high schools has come under fire. It is a precarious right PRECARIOUS RIGHT. The right which the owner of a thing transfers to another, to enjoy the same until it shall please the owner to revoke it.
2. If there is a time fixed during which the right may be used it is then vested for that time, and cannot be revoked in the best of times, but it has recently come into conflict with a growing intolerance for unpatriotic outspokenness, and even an insistence on conformity. Nationwide, some students are learning that during a time of war, what they say, do, or wear--whether in opposition or support of the war--is being looked at with closer scrutiny.

"There seems to be, in a time of national traumaA national trauma is a crisis or a tragic experience which affects the spirit of a nation or an ethnicity, sometimes for generations to come. Large-scale disasters like war or genocide inevitably have this effect, but in an otherwise stable and prosperous country even a minor event
..... Click the link for more information. such as this, a grasping for simplicity and a putting of security over anything else," says Paul McMasters, the First Amendment ombudsman for the Freedom Forum, a free-speech advocacy group. "The problem is that this goes against what we say we stand for."

School principals say the competing demands of their job often force them to make tough calls. "Most principals want kids to have as much freedom of expression as possible," says Bill J. Bond, a principal in Paducah, Ky., who is active in a national principals' organization. "But on the other hand, the main purpose of school is learning, and you want to have an atmosphere that's conducive to learning."

Yet in seeking to prevent disruption, some school officials are restricting expression. The list of such disputes is growing. Sometimes they are simply baffling baf·fle
tr.v. baf·fled, baf·fling, baf·fles
1. To frustrate or check (a person) as by confusing or perplexing; stymie.

2. To impede the force or movement of.

n.
1. , like the decision of an elementary school elementary school: see school. in Topeka, Kan., to require that Halloween costumes have a patriotic theme. But other incidents are more troubling, activists say. Consider the following cases from across the country:

* Charleston, W.Va.--The American Civil Liberties UnionAmerican Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), nonpartisan organization devoted to the preservation and extension of the basic rights set forth in the U.S. Constitution.
..... Click the link for more information. has taken up the cause of Katie Sierra, a 15-year-old student critical of the war in Afghanistan. She was suspended after she wore homemade T-shirts expressing her political views and tried to form an anarchist club. One T-shirt had the sarcastic statement: "When I saw the dead and dying Afghani af·ghan·i
n. pl. af·ghan·is
See Table at currency.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Pashto afghn children on TV, I felt a newly recovered sense of national security. God Bless America."

A school board member accused her of treason. Sierra's mother, citing concern for the teenager's safety, withdrew her from school after she said she was harassed and assaulted by other students. When Sierra sued the school district, the judge in her case said no one could guarantee her safety if she returned.

"If you have any different beliefs," Sierra says, "if you don't support your country, then you're a terrorist. It's not fair. There are other opinions in this world."

* Alexandria, Va.--Members of a high school Amnesty InternationalAmnesty International (AI,) human-rights organization founded in 1961 by Englishman Peter Benenson; it campaigns internationally against the detention of prisoners of conscience, for the fair trial of political prisoners, to abolish the death penalty and torture of
..... Click the link for more information. club put up posters in stairwells reading, "War Will Only Kill More." Students reported that the posters were torn down repeatedly, sometimes by teachers. One student said she had received an A on an essay she wrote that was critical of American foreign policy; when the essays were going to be displayed on a bulletin board, she was asked to write another on a subject that might not cause offense.

* Newton, Mass.--Howard Zinn, an antiwar an·ti·war
adj.
Opposed to war or to a particular war: antiwar protests; an antiwar candidate. veteran and historian, drew outrage after speaking at a high school about the war in Afghanistan. At the school assembly, where attendance was optional, Zinn denounced the terrorist attacks. But he suggested that the war would be ineffective against terrorism and urged Americans to be more compassionate to the plight of the rest of the world. Angered parents responded at a school board meeting. One called Zinn a "screwball screw·ball
n.
1. Baseball A pitched ball that curves in the direction opposite to that of a normal curve ball.

2. Slang An eccentric, impulsively whimsical, or irrational person.

adj. ." Another demanded, "What on earth did you hope to accomplish by bringing this traitor, this maggot maggot: see blowfly; fly; larva. , to lecture our community's children?"

* Fairview Park, Ohio--High school junior Aaron Pettit was suspended for 10 days after hanging pictures on his locker of airplanes bombing Afghanistan. "God have mercy," one of them said, "because we will not." School officials said they were concerned about offending students of Arab descent. Pettit sued and won a settlement. "I was very surprised," Pettit told reporters, referring to the suspension. "I was just showing how I felt, and I thought I could do that."

As a matter of law, Pettit was right--sort of. Even in school, students are allowed to say what they think. In a landmark 1969 decision, the Supreme Court upheld a student's constitutional right to free expression (see "Expression vs. Disruption," opposite page). But there are limits, mainly designed to ensure an orderly environment for learning. And since Sept. 11, those limits appear to be getting stricter.

Some civil liberties advocates suggest that this may be trickling down from the very top of the government. U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, for example, has argued that criticism of the administration gives "ammunition to America's enemies, and pause to America's friends."

Many agree that, in light of the Sept. 11 attacks, Americans may need to rethink the balance between liberty and security. But critics argue there is little reason to clamp down on kids who hang posters on their lockers or wear politically provocative T-shirts.

"In time of war, there are justifiable limitations on free expression--for example, protecting troop movements," says Mark Goodman, executive director of the Student Press Law Center, which provides advice to student journalists. "But the point is, in high school, we're not talking about anything remotely related to that."

Some schools, in fact, have used the recent events as an opportunity to promote dialogue about difficult issues and encourage free expression. In Bexley, Ohio, school officials defended their decision to allow a local Muslim activist to speak to students and suggest how American foreign policy might have contributed to the attacks.

As it happens, the Freedom Forum chose this year to begin a national First Amendment project aimed at students in kindergarten through 12th grade. The idea is to teach students the importance of the amendment and encourage schools to make it part of daily life through projects like writing "class constitutions."

But McMasters, the Freedom Forum ombudsman, believes that many schools are missing a natural opportunity, what school professionals sometimes refer to as a "teachable teach·a·ble
adj.
1. That can be taught: teachable skills.

2. Able and willing to learn: teachable youngsters. moment." "Instead of teaching that democracy is strong enough to accommodate a wide range of viewpoints, questions, and comments," he says, "those in charge of our students taught exactly the wrong message."

After all, school is about learning, including from mistakes. Lane Haygood, for example, says he would not write his column about Bush the same way now. For one thing, the buffoon reference, he said, would be gone.

"I called Bush a lot of names--childish, petty names," he says, "and that was unprofessional of me. But so far as my opinions, every one of my political positions stays the same."





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Re: 11 YEAR OLD NEWS Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 23 22:17:45 2012, in response to 11 YEAR OLD NEWS Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by dand124 on Wed May 23 22:14:00 2012.

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Yeah, and soon it will be eleven years from the OP as well. :)

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:19:00 2012, in response to 11 YEAR OLD NEWS Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by dand124 on Wed May 23 22:14:00 2012.

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"please not that this is from 11 years ago



YOU SUPPORT THOSE RIGHTIES TO IMPLY THAT THERE IS POLICTICAL BIAS IN THE HS CLASSROOM FROM LEFT WING TEACHERS WHEN THE RIGHIES DO THE THE SAME SHIT.



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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 23 22:20:32 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:19:00 2012.

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Well yeah ... righties are automatically entitled to do that. After all ... they're "right" ... :)

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:22:40 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 23 22:20:32 2012.

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LOL :) I mean....gp38 implies righties are for supreme freedom for all! lol

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by dand124 on Wed May 23 22:27:51 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:19:00 2012.

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no but this happened 11 years ago.

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:32:30 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by dand124 on Wed May 23 22:27:51 2012.

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It is still relevant for the thread.....since GP38 is ready to attack the lefties of suppression of freedom when the righties are guilty of the deed too.

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Re:Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!,

Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:37:05 2012, in response to Re: SPLC LOL, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 23 22:15:09 2012.

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"Just sayin'. "


OK.....TURTLE.....just sayin too!


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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by dand124 on Wed May 23 22:38:06 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 23 19:46:42 2012.

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yet he points out that other people are "wrong" all the time.

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 23 22:46:22 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 22:22:40 2012.

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Yeah, musta been libs that came up with that PATRIOT act thingy.

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 23:00:10 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed May 23 21:03:34 2012.

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LOL!!! Even the hard leftists admit she acted inappropriately.

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 23:00:43 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 21:48:06 2012.

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LMAO!!!!

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 23:04:18 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 21:52:32 2012.

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LOL!!!!

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 23:23:49 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 23:00:10 2012.

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Those hard leftists didn't vet the tape. In fact, no one did!

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by AlM on Thu May 24 08:38:23 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 20:58:43 2012.

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Wow, I speak out against one leftist teacher, and you have me blaming the entire US school system and this is systemwide.


Your words speak for themselves.

This is the TRASH the left wing puts out to teach our children.

No....but theres no secret that education is controlled heavily by the left.

You're not just saying it's one stupid teacher. You are saying it's a systemic problem because education is heavily controlled by the left.






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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by TERRapin station on Thu May 24 12:26:08 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 23 20:33:32 2012.

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Unbelievable.

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 24 13:32:33 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 23:23:49 2012.

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LOL!!!!

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Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 24 13:36:32 2012, in response to Re: Unreasonable Left Wing Teacher Attacks Student for Questioning About Obama, posted by AlM on Thu May 24 08:38:23 2012.

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Your words speak for themselves.

LOL, yeah, okay.
I am glad you know my thoughts and words.

You're not just saying it's one stupid teacher. You are saying it's a systemic problem because education is heavily controlled by the left.


Never said it was a "systematic problem", that's your analysis. But there are a lot more left leaning teachers than right leaning teachers. That doesn't mean it's a "systematic problem".

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Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!

Posted by Rockparkman on Thu May 24 15:33:38 2012, in response to Re: Right Wing High School Principal removes paper critical of BUSH!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 22:10:14 2012.

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ESAD, Nazi. Hey, FUCKUP Did you see where Germany is threatening MILITARY OCCUPATION if Greece doesn't adopt Supply side economics? looks like America +LOST+ WWII when that mealy mouthed ASSHOLE Reagan said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall" Of course that was the plan from the beginning.

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