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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:34:23 2012 ... they commission a poll with only 22% of the sample being Republican and STILL they can't show a lead for Obama outside the margin of error:33% came out in 2008, just to remind you |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 12:40:24 2012, in response to You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:34:23 2012. More hot air......Chris, try this |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:44:16 2012, in response to You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:34:23 2012. Five states will decide the election.Florida Ohio North Carolina Virginia Indiana The only polls that really matter at this point are the ones coming out of those states. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:46:55 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:44:16 2012. The only state where you can't really predict the outcome is VA. NC and IN are no longer listed as swing states, they're solid red. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:51:33 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:46:55 2012. Listing those states as solid red in a Presidential is just stupid. They will be purple for many years to come.Obama can win NC again. And don't forget that the DNC is in Charlotte this year. That will help them in NC. They were smart for booking it there. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 13:00:21 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:51:33 2012. NC and IN have been red for decades, 2008 was an anomoly. NC in particular, because Obama barely won it. If black turnout falls 5 percent, Obama loses it, even with 2008 GOP turnout. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 13:00:31 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:51:33 2012. Winning NC is all about turnout. Yes, President Obama can win again there.I don't believe there's ever been any conclusive study on the location of a party convention and winning that state in the general. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 13:00:31 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:51:33 2012. Winning NC is all about turnout. Yes, President Obama can win again there.I don't believe there's ever been any conclusive study on the location of a party convention and winning that state in the general. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 13:02:55 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 13:00:21 2012. Nobody expect IN to vote for the President this time, although with all the teabaggery there of late it's possible. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 22 13:07:14 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:46:55 2012. The only state where you can't really predict the outcome is VA.If you can predict FL and OH currently you are wasting your talents and should be picking stocks that go up instead. People far more knowledgable than you don't know what the economy is going to do in the next 5 months. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 13:19:22 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by AlM on Tue May 22 13:07:14 2012. FL will go for Romney. OH will swing whichever way the national trend goes (like it ALWAYS does). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 14:59:34 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 13:00:21 2012. If Black turnout drops just 1% Obama could lose NC. It was a very narrow victory.But it's still a victory. One you gotta figure will be tough for the GOP to reverse. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 15:00:21 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 13:00:31 2012. The DNC is in Charlotte for the same reason the RNC is in Tampa. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 15:40:06 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 15:00:21 2012. ....neither will affect the outcome. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 15:53:00 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 15:40:06 2012. That's not what party leaders think. They are trying to make a difference between losing by 1% and winning by 1%.2016 you can bet the RNC will be in Ohio, Virginia or NC. DNC will be from one of those states too. THIW. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue May 22 17:01:11 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:44:16 2012. Pretty much. I'd cross Indiana off that list, and probably North Carolina as well. Obama will definitely lose there. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 17:05:16 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by JayMan on Tue May 22 17:01:11 2012. Why North Carolina? Don't be fooled by what happened with the gay marriage vote three weeks ago.I bet Obama wins it again by 1%. It's all minorities now. And white liberals. NC was the south. Now it's like being in New Jersey or Maryland. The DNC investment in Charlotte will pay off. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 18:29:25 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 15:53:00 2012. That may be what they think but that has no bearing on reality. For both of them. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 18:35:26 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 18:29:25 2012. DNC is one big campaign stop. It's meant to sway the vote in a state that is projected to be close. THIW. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 18:43:25 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 18:29:25 2012. Ohio was the runner-up.Of course it's about the electoral map. Thanks for trolling me. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 19:12:37 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 18:35:26 2012. What part of "I know that" don't you get? Did you get the part where I said there's NO definitive proof that this works for either party? THIW. Sheesh. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 19:19:49 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 12:44:16 2012. The only states that actually matter are Ohio (trending Democratic as its urban areas attract the young and its republican rural areas empty out) NC, Florida (both turnout dependent), AZ (which will be a close call surprise). VA will go Democratic. IN will go republican probably, but given the teabaggery there they will probably send a Democrat to the Senate when all is said and done. There's an outside chance the state will vote Democratic for President, but nobody should hold their breath. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 22 21:03:45 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 12:46:55 2012. Watch Indiana, where Senator Lugar lost the primary to a Tea Party candidate. If moderate Republicans sit this one out, it might go Democratic. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Tue May 22 21:09:31 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 22 21:03:45 2012. Good. BTW, there are NO moderate Nazis. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 21:09:48 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 22 21:03:45 2012. That's my thinking. The guy the teabaggers nominated is giving alot of people there reason to turn out as well. To stop it. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue May 22 21:10:12 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 18:35:26 2012. So the RNC going to NYC a few years ago was because NY was a swing state? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 22 21:31:30 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by bingbong on Tue May 22 21:09:48 2012. Plus, if they dislike Romney for whatever reason, Indiana could go Democratic. It will be close, either way! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 23:14:08 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by ClearAspect on Tue May 22 21:10:12 2012. No, they wanted to be around for your RDO. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 23:16:48 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by ClearAspect on Tue May 22 21:10:12 2012. Seriously, everyone knows why they chose NYC that year. I'm surprised someone with your vast knowledge doesn't know. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 23:19:35 2012, in response to Re: You know they're getting desperate when ..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 13:19:22 2012. Of all the "swing states" Florida is least likely to swing back to the GOP this time. I have no idea why you and only you keep saying that it will.Only way GOP will win Florida again is when/if the Democrats can't find another of color to run for President. Obama guarantees a big black minority turnout in Florida. And believe me, there's a huge base in Florida. |
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