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Arab Members of Knesset equate "Nakba" to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 16:57:30 2012 fiogf49gjkf0d They're allowed into the Knesset and this is what they do. So when is the Palestinian Authority going to allow Jews into their "unity government"? INN Arab MK: Nakba Equal to Destruction of Jewish Temples Arab MKs liken the birth of Israel to the destruction of both Jewish Temples for Nakba Day By Gabe Kahn First Publish: 5/15/2012, 7:55 PM Israeli-Arab lawmakers lined up to incite against Israel on Tuesday saying the creation of the Jewish state was the "equivalent to the destruction of the First and Second [Jewish] Temples." Attending an event held in Aljoun near Umm al-Fahm, the Arab Knesset members were joined by the leader of the Islamic Movement's Northern Branch, Raed Salah, and the head of the Higher Arab Monitoring Committee, Mohammed Zidan. "I feel an atmosphere of victory," MK Jamal Zahalka said, referring to the end of a mass hunger strike by Arab security prisoners in Israeli prisons.. "They won a battle for their rights and we succeeded in introducing the Nakba in the public discourse." "We won't forgive and won't forget," he added, aping internal Israeli Jewish political discourse. MK Ahmad Tibi said, "Empathy towards another people's suffering is a sublime human value on the way to reconciliation. The collective memory of a people who were ethnically cleansed in 1948 will not be quashed by erasing 530 villages." Tibi, PLO arch-terrorist Yassir Arafat's former spokesman and confidant, has infamously praised "shahids" (suicide terrorists) and led angry crowed marching in Jerusalem's Old City chanting "With blood and fire, we will redeem Palestine!" MK Tala El-Sana said that "the denial of the Nakba is as much as a crime than the Nakba itself. Israel has a duty to recognize the Nakba." He added, "Any attempt to deny the Nakba will advance the next flare-up while recognition will promote reconciliation." "As far as the Palestinians are concerned, the Nakba is equivalent to the Destruction of the First and Second Temples," he claimed. "It's a traumatic event that transformed the Palestinian people from a people living in their homeland to refugees longing for the right to return to their homeland." Nakba Day (The Day of Catastrophe) marches are conducted on the Roman calendar date marking Israel's inception (May 15), while Israel celebrates its independence on the Hebrew calender date (6 Iyar). While organizers consistently claim Nakba Day protests will be nonviolent, most have traditionally devolved into riotous violence. On Tuesday, Israeli security forces clashed with rioters who attacked soldiers, police, and paramedics in several locations in Judea and Samaria. Security forces — in response to hurled stones and firebombs, burning tires rolled at security lines, and explosives — responded with rubber bullets, tear gas, and other riot control measures. At least three IDF soldiers and one Border Police officer were injured in clashes with rioters. Scores of Arabs from Palestinian Authority enclaves were injured as well.
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 15 19:15:44 2012, in response to Arab Members of Knesset equate "Nakba" to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 16:57:30 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d "As far as the Palestinians are concerned, the Nakba is equivalent to the Destruction of the First and Second Temples," he claimed. "It's a traumatic event that transformed the Palestinian people from a people living in their homeland to refugees longing for the right to return to their homeland." *** So did the temple not exist, as per the arab authorities, or does he mean they are 'palestinian', or that they are arab? I'm confused by his panic rant.
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed May 16 06:29:10 2012, in response to Arab Members of Knesset equate "Nakba" to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 16:57:30 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d Perhaps if the government tried harder to not marginalize and discriminate against the Israeli-Arab population in all sorts of ways, this sort of thing wouldn't happen. The Israeli-Arab population could do Israel wonders for garnering support for Israeli policies in the Arab world, but it doesn't seem as if anyone wants to use this potential for any good right now.
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:01:47 2012, in response to Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 15 19:15:44 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d Ain't it hilarious when they undermine themselves like that? Something that they claim did not exist suddenly did exist.
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Arab Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said "Jordan is Palestine"
Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:06:08 2012, in response to Arab Members of Knesset equate "Nakba" to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 16:57:30 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d Do they have a definition of treason in the Israeli basic law . . . ? INN MK Eldad: PM Should Have Said 'Jordan is Palestine' MK Aryeh Eldad criticized Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's response to PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas saying there is a third path." By Gabe Kahn First Publish: 5/16/2012, 8:58 PM MK Aryeh Eldad on Wednesday criticized Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's letter to Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas in the Knesset plenum. “The letter should have included the fact that the resolution of the conflict lies with the possibility the Jordan will become the PA homeland when the Palestinian Arabs overthrow King Abdullah," he said. Eldad has dueled in recent years with Jordanian King Abdullah II's decision to abandon the Hashemite Monarchy's position that Jordan is the true 'Palestinian State.' In 2011, Abdullah rejected the long-held formula of the Hashemite monarchy that "Jordan is Palestine," saying "The so-called 'substitute homeland' exists only in the minds of the weak." Abdullah, responding to comments by Eldad, told reporters "the Jordanian option is an illusion. Jordan is Jordan, and Palestine is Palestine." Eldad responded saying "It is better Abdullah announce today that Jordan is the national homeland for the Palestinians – or else seek asylum in London." Critics of Eldad say his push for a return to the Jordan is Palestine is well-founded in a historical and legal sense — King Hussein I asserted in 1981 that "Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan" — but fails to take into account the geopolitical reality of Abdullah's flat opposition. However, Eldad's position has evolved and is no longer based on Abdullah's assent, but the presumption that the Hashemite Monarchy, destabilized by the Arab Spring, probably won't survive. He now maintains — should Abdullah be forced into exile — that Israel should be prepared to resurrect the initiative. Mudar Zahran, a Jordanian political activist who lives in London, is working to make that initiative a reality. Such a shift in policy is unlikely from Netanyahu who, when faced with an increasingly stark decision between ceding or annexing Judea and Samaria, has clearly indicated he prefers to give up territory. Just last month, Netanyahu told CNN he believed Palestinian Authority Arabs should be given a contiguous state in Judea and Samaria. Nor, observers say, with Cairo looking at a possible rejection of the 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty, is Netanyahu likely to make a dramatic policy change that could further destabilize Abdullah's throne — and with it the one stable treaty with an Arab state Israel has. Nonetheless, Eldad's supporters say, should Abdullah be forced into exile, Israel's strategic profile vis-a-vis Jordan would radically alter whether Netanyahu wants it to or not — and that such an outcome could benefit Israel. At that point, they argue, Israel would be able to seize the third, better option — “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan."
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Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine''
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed May 16 17:07:41 2012, in response to Arab Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said "Jordan is Palestine", posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:06:08 2012.* fiogf49gjkf0d Whoops; forgot to erase the "Arab".
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Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine''
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 16 17:15:16 2012, in response to Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:07:41 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d It always bothered me that many pro-Israel people don't say this more. Palestinians are Jordanian and should be allowed to relocate there.
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Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine''
Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:19:32 2012, in response to Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 16 17:15:16 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d They're not. The Jordanians are not all Arabs. And falling for the "Palestinian" BS validates the lie of the Arabs, i.e. the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" (which is just like the so-called "Soviet people").
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:33:25 2012, in response to Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed May 16 06:29:10 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d What sort of thing? Getting Arabs to admit the existence of temples that the "Palestinians" repeatedly claim did not exist . . . ?
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu May 17 06:29:34 2012, in response to Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:33:25 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d Sure. Israel is not an apartheid state, but there is without a doubt widespread discrimination against quite a few sectors of the population, Israeli-Arabs among them.
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 17 07:57:46 2012, in response to Arab Members of Knesset equate "Nakba" to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 16:57:30 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d When the first Jewish pope is elected.
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 17 12:03:48 2012, in response to Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 17 07:57:46 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d You mean a Nasi? They had those years ago.
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Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine''
Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 17 12:51:58 2012, in response to Re: (correction) Member of Knesset: Netanyahu should've said ''Jordan is Palestine'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 16 17:19:32 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d Also, saying "Palestinians are Jordanians" might piss off the Jordanians, since I don't think Jordanians think too highly of Palestinians since their little coup attempt.
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Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples
Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 19 11:28:02 2012, in response to Re: Arab Members of Knesset equate ''Nakba'' to destruction of First and Second (Jewish) Temples, posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 17 07:57:46 2012. fiogf49gjkf0d Which will be the 13Th of Never.
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