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BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 21:05:21 2012

examiner.com

Radicalism and Terrorism | May 13, 2012

Obama's father suspected of being anti-white terrorist by British, U.S. intel

Jim Kouri
Law Enforcement Examiner
Newly released, declassified files from the United Kingdom reveal U.S.officials' concerns that Kenyans studying in America, including President Obama's father, may have had ties to Kenyan terrorist groups that were supported by communist nations in the 1950s and early 1960s.

As yet the documents exist only in physical form at the National Archives in Kew, Southwest London – but they are open to the public, a British police source told the Law Enforcement Examiner on Sunday.

Documents released in April by the British government — but ignored until the left-leaning, London-based newspaper The Guardian printed a story — reveal that the President’s father, Barack Hussein Obama, Senior, was the target of an international investigation due to his ties to Kenyan terrorist groups in the 1950s such as the group responsible for the so-called Mao-Mao Uprising in Kenya.

The declassified documents, which had been kept secret for decades, "were privately condemned by Obama administration officials," a British source told the Law Enforcement Examiner.

Obama's White House and re-election campaign teams feared the documents could hurt the struggling president, especially with independent voters, as polls showed Obama trailing Republican contender Mitt Romney in several key states by a few points, according to a Gallup Poll also released in April.

Sadly, except for the blogosphere and European news organizations, the story regarding the British intelligence documents is being conspicuously ignored, said political strategist Mile Baker.

The documents on Obama, Sr., were released as a result of a case in the British High Court brought by a team of professors from Oxford University. The documents describe events when Kenya was still a British colony and Obama Sr. was a Kenyan national who traveled to Hawaii for a college education, despite his political radicalism and poor academic record, according to Britain's Daily Mail, hardly a right-wing publication.

On September 1, 1959, one British ambassador penned a highly classified communiqué that stated, “I have discussed with the State Department. They are as disturbed about these developments as we are. They point out that Kenya students have a bad reputation over here for falling into the wrong hands and for becoming both anti-American and anti-white,” according to the Daily Mail report.

The British documents revealed that Barack, Sr., and Ann Dunham, a 17-year-old white American from Kansas, traveled to Hawaii and to Indonesia where the President was allegedly raised with a traditional Muslim education, complete with Imans and Madrasas.

The Mau Mau Uprising was an insurgency by Kenyan rebels — who used terrorist tactics against the British citizens — that lasted from 1952 to 1960. The core of the resistance was formed by members of the Kikuyu ethnic group, along with smaller numbers of Embu and Meru, according to the New World Encyclopedia.

The uprising failed militarily, though it may have hastened Kenyan independence. It created a rift between the white colonial community in Kenya and the Home Office in London that set the stage for Kenyan independence in 1963.

The veterans of the independence movement referred to themselves as the "Land and Freedom Army" in English. Economic disparity between Africans and settlers in Kenya and aspiration for independence provoked the rebellion, which the British always represented as a series of lawless acts by dangerous criminal, anti-social elements, according to a Rutgers University African Studies report.

However, to what degree Obama, Sr., was involved in the uprising and killings is not known nor do the British or American documents say more than he embraced Kenya's independence from the British Empire and he was an avowed socialist.


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Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?

Posted by Easy on Mon May 14 21:08:06 2012, in response to BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 21:05:21 2012.

lmao!

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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon May 14 21:13:56 2012, in response to BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 21:05:21 2012.

How odd. Recently declassified yet I thought something along the lines were already known.

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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 21:59:33 2012, in response to BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 21:05:21 2012.

Wow. File that under fiction.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 14 22:08:12 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 21:59:33 2012.

Nah ... I'd file that one under raving lunatics who talk to themselves and walk into doors on the train. :)

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Posted by JohnL on Mon May 14 22:18:18 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 21:59:33 2012.

Not quite fiction: enough facts to stir, though I love the the sentence that describes the Daily Mail as “hardly a right-wing publication”! Not much to the left of Attila the Hun, that is.

And, it is true that at the time, there were elements in Kenya that were trying to overthrow British Colonial Rule. Have we read about that happening before somewhere locally maybe?

Fortunately, there’s one paragraph that sums up the only evident truths:

However, to what degree Obama, Sr, was involved in the uprising and killings is not known nor do the British or American documents say more than he embraced Kenya’s independence from the British Empire and he was an avowed socialist.

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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 22:24:49 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by JohnL on Mon May 14 22:18:18 2012.

:-) Fairytales take place in forests. Forests are real too.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 22:58:28 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Easy on Mon May 14 21:08:06 2012.

what's so funny?

you don't think it could possibly be true? or that it's a desperate attempt to smear Obama?

Stuff like this can get him votes in NC, FLA, and VA.

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Posted by Easy on Mon May 14 23:07:39 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 22:58:28 2012.

It's a desperate attempt that will backfire.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 23:13:47 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Easy on Mon May 14 23:07:39 2012.

Do you think the I-4 Corridor of Florida may decide the election?

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Posted by Easy on Mon May 14 23:15:45 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 23:13:47 2012.

I have no idea, but for some reason I kind of doubt it.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 23:17:22 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 23:13:47 2012.

The road itself? It'd look unusual for a big strip of asphalt to try and get into a polling booth.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 23:23:02 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Easy on Mon May 14 23:15:45 2012.

Why not? If Florida is a swing state, that I-4 region is where the battle will take place. It's a combustible mix of you know what kind of whites and you know what kind of minorities.

Just like Lake County Indiana changed that state in 2008 and Fairfax, VA changed that state in 2008. It usually comes down to a county or cluster of counties that can swing the entire election.

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Posted by Easy on Mon May 14 23:29:47 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 23:23:02 2012.

Then maybe if it comes down to one state, which I doubt that it will. I hardly care anymore. I'd be fine with Romney.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 23:35:52 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Easy on Mon May 14 23:29:47 2012.

I think in this election it comes down to Fairfax VA, Lake Indiana, and I-4 corridor.

That's why Obama kicked off his campaign in VA and OH. Those are two of four states that are expected to swing the entire election.

You'll see the candidates spend a lot of time and money in those four states while markets like LA, NY, Chicago won't get any money.

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Posted by SLRT on Tue May 15 07:35:13 2012, in response to BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 21:05:21 2012.

We do know that the British punished Obama Sr. for alleged activities, since that has often been cited as a reason for Obama Jr.'s dislike of the Brits.

I say it's neither here nor there. Either it's a fact or it isn't. If it is a fact, BHO Sr. will be cast as a Freedom Fighter or a Terrorist, depending on your POV.


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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 15 07:51:00 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by SLRT on Tue May 15 07:35:13 2012.

Correct. The Democratic left will classify him as a freedom fighter no matter what (just as a hard leftist here automatically declared Rev Wright one here, just yesterday), and the Right will classify him as a Terrorist no matter what.



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Posted by AlM on Tue May 15 08:55:30 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 14 22:58:28 2012.

Is what true? The article says a lot of Kenyan students were investigated. Of course that's true.

The article says Obama and Ann Dunham took Barack to Indonesia where he was raised as a Muslim. You know that's not true. It was Lolo Soetero who went to Indonesia with Ann Dunham.



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Posted by AlM on Tue May 15 08:57:40 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by bingbong on Mon May 14 21:59:33 2012.

The main fiction is in the title. This is true and not at all damaging:

However, to what degree Obama, Sr., was involved in the uprising and killings is not known nor do the British or American documents say more than he embraced Kenya's independence from the British Empire and he was an avowed socialist.

The Indonesia part is a real screw-up, of course.

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Posted by AlM on Tue May 15 09:00:58 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by SLRT on Tue May 15 07:35:13 2012.

Either it's a fact or it isn't.

Either what is a fact or it isn't?

All the article says is that students were suspected and investigated. Of course that's true. It's never been denied.

The Indonesia part is totally garbled. Obama Sr never had anything to do with Indonesia. That was Lolo Soetero, who aligned himself with the anti-communist forces there.


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Posted by JayMan on Tue May 15 09:08:36 2012, in response to BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 14 21:05:21 2012.

You do realize that Kenya was under British occupation at the time and was vying for its independence, yes?

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Posted by AlM on Tue May 15 09:12:26 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by JayMan on Tue May 15 09:08:36 2012.

No use discussing with him. The article says nothing more than that Obama Sr was probably investigated, like 100s of other students. Yet Olog copies the sensational headline.



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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 15 09:37:55 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by AlM on Tue May 15 09:00:58 2012.

The Indonesia part is totally garbled. Obama Sr never had anything to do with Indonesia. That was Lolo Soetero, who aligned himself with the anti-communist forces there

According to the article, the British documents say Obama, Sr. took the family to Indonesia. If it's the British intel that's wrong, the article would be technically correct.

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Posted by AlM on Tue May 15 09:46:39 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 15 09:37:55 2012.

The British documents would be from before Kenya was independent; after that they wouldn't care about Obama Sr any more. Soetero took Dunham and Barack to Indonesia in 1967 when Sukarno was overthrown. Kenya gained its independence in 1964.

That suggests to me that the article is totally making things up when it comes to Indonesia. Complete fabrications are not unusual in Olog sources.



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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 11:09:27 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by SLRT on Tue May 15 07:35:13 2012.

BHO Sr. will be cast as a Freedom Fighter or a Terrorist, depending on your POV

POV doesn't always mean you're correct. One of the things that George Carlin got right: "If crimefighters fight crime and firefighters fight fires, what do freedom fighters fight . . . ?"

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Posted by AlM on Tue May 15 11:22:38 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 11:09:27 2012.

The article cites no evidence that BHO Sr supported any sort of violent activity whatsoever. All it says is that all students were automatically suspect.


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Posted by JayMan on Tue May 15 11:56:43 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by AlM on Tue May 15 09:12:26 2012.

No use discussing with him.

Truer words have never been spoken.

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Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue May 15 12:54:25 2012, in response to Re: BHO Sr.: Anti-white terrorist?, posted by AlM on Tue May 15 09:46:39 2012.

+1

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