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Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012

I don't think this will cost him a LOT of votes, but will it suppress turnout, especially down south? Still, this is a disaster for Obama (of his own making) and a boon for Romney:

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/05/13/same-sex-marriage-supporters-opponents-gear-up-for-november-ballot/

Note that Romney re-affirmed his commitment to traditional marriage. We shall now see what effect (if any) it has in the polls.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 13:21:07 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

He's going to get a lot of flack from Blacks. They are way less accepting of gays, and many are very religious. While it won't make them vote for Romney, it does make them much less excited about heading the polls like they did in 2008.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:23:45 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 13:21:07 2012.

But they will still mostly vote for him. However, this guarantees that the black vote, while still overwhelmingly for Obama, will be smaller in size than it was in 2008. 95% of a smaller pie is.....smaller.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon May 14 13:29:46 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

Note that Romney re-affirmed his commitment to traditional marriage. We shall now see what effect (if any) it has in the polls.

Speaking of "evolving"



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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon May 14 13:49:27 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

At the end of the day, gay marriage is unlikely to sway many voters who are predisposed to one candidate or the other to switch IMO. This might be a big deal right now, but come November, jobs and the economy will likely be the deciding factors in who most of the voters want in office.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 13:56:42 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:23:45 2012.

That was my point. It's not like Blacks will not vote on racial lines, just as they did in 2008. It's just that there will be a lot less of them, as motivation for them is not at all what it was in 2008.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 14 14:08:27 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

"I would rather be right than be President."

--Henry Clay

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon May 14 14:58:00 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 14 13:56:42 2012.

It's not like Blacks will not vote on racial lines, just as they did in 2008.

Who got the black vote, Cynthia McKinney or Alan Keyes?

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Easy on Mon May 14 22:12:46 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

I was listening to kjlh in LA after Obama came out and was surprised by how disappointed nearly all of the callers were. I didn't listen that long, but from several callers (5 or 6) and the radio dj's, only one person said that they agreed with Obama (the female DJ). Everyone sounded deflated, although everyone said that they would still vote for Obama.

OTOH, the semi-conservative talk show that I listen to on KFI makes fun of Romney for not supporting gay marriage, which they see as a no-brainer, equal rights issue.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 14 22:29:27 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

I think O'bummer pretty much figured on the political fallout.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Easy on Mon May 14 22:35:19 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Train Dude on Mon May 14 22:29:27 2012.

He couldn't do this 4 years ago because originally black voters were in Hillary's corner, not Obama's. He had to pretend that he shared the same values as black Americans.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 14 23:15:01 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Easy on Mon May 14 22:35:19 2012.

"Pretend" being the operative word - as in not honest with his supporters

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 00:50:44 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Easy on Mon May 14 22:12:46 2012.

i stopped listening to kjlh afer dominique deprima was forced on
i uesd to listen to it every day in the early morning hours (front page)

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 15 01:00:31 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 00:50:44 2012.

"i stopped listening to kjlh afer dominique deprima was forced on "

How do they force a person to go "on"?

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 02:48:44 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 15 01:00:31 2012.

Whats Salaam feelings on Obama now?

I mean after the "bad prison experience"?

LOL!

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 02:51:21 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 02:48:44 2012.

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 02:52:35 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 15 01:00:31 2012.

a very good talk show host was replaced
most unfortunate

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 03:03:40 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 02:51:21 2012.

LOL

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 03:04:35 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 02:52:35 2012.

alas her dream did not come true, like yours being a subway train driver!

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 03:05:08 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 03:04:35 2012.

?????????

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 03:06:30 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 03:05:08 2012.

You posted it, I linked it, you forgot it!

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 15 03:42:51 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 03:06:30 2012.

must not have been important enough or worth it to remember..

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 15 06:32:06 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

Romney will look like one of those guys in the 60's who opposed the Civil Rights Act.

What would your guy Hermain Cain have done?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 13:54:49 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Edwards! on Tue May 15 03:42:51 2012.

Yeah, because he loves to ZZZZZZZZ everyones posts he disagrees with, but do it to him and its :Wake the fuck up!

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Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage flip-flop

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 14:39:55 2012, in response to Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 14 13:15:10 2012.

Washington Post

Posted at 01:42 PM ET, 05/15/2012

Manny Pacquiao opposes Obama’s stance on same-sex marriage

By Cindy Boren
Manny Pacquiao, a boxing champion and politician in his native Philippines, is staunchly opposed to same-sex marriage and President Obama’s recent stance favoring it.

Pacquiao called same-sex marriage “an abomination” and referring to the Bible, said, “God only expects man and woman to be together and to be legally married, only if they so are in love with each other.”

Pacquiao, who hopes to become an evangelist one day, told the National Conservative Examiner: “It should not be of the same sex so as to adulterate the altar of matrimony, like in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah of old.”

Pacquiao (54-3-2 with 38 knockouts) is training for his June 9 bout with Timothy Bradley (28-0, 12 KOs).


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Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage stance.

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue May 15 15:02:54 2012, in response to Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage flip-flop, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 14:39:55 2012.

Are you kidding me? lol.....this is not even worth it.....some freakin BOXER in the Philippines all of a sudden gives negative commentary on Obama and NO ABOUT THE OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT WHERE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS LEGAL LIKE IN SPAIN FOR EXAMPLE. GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK!


oh...and by the way...Olog....have you worn YOUR FLIP-FLOPS on this wet day? eh?

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 15:08:03 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 13:54:49 2012.

lol

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Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage flip-flop

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 15 16:14:09 2012, in response to Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage flip-flop, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 15 14:39:55 2012.

Who?

He isn't even an American. Is this the best you can come up with???? LOL!

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Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage flip-flop

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue May 15 16:22:23 2012, in response to Re: Fallout continues: Manny Pacquiao condemns Obama for same-sex marriage flip-flop, posted by bingbong on Tue May 15 16:14:09 2012.

He is now waiting for CHARO to give her opinion...just you wait and see...lol


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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 15 16:39:37 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 13:54:49 2012.

Fuck You..Im ALWAYS AWAKE..especially dealing with this place.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 15 16:42:57 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 15 13:54:49 2012.

Fuck that..he's ALWAYS AWAKE..especially dealing with this place.

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Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop

Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 15 18:23:02 2012, in response to Re: Fallout begins: Black churches condemn Obama for same sex marriage flip flop, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 15 02:52:35 2012.

That was not my question to you. DO you want to avoid answering my question?

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