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Re: Willard Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 11 11:35:01 2012, in response to Re: Willard Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 11 04:38:03 2012.

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What countries have dog farms for meat?

At least Korea and China. puppybeef.com operates in 15 countries.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 11 12:08:56 2012, in response to Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 11 08:29:10 2012.

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The victim (nothing need be alledged here) died some years ago. How canhe say it didn't happen?

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Re: Willard Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 11 12:15:10 2012, in response to Re: Willard Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri May 11 05:23:07 2012.

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Oh, like the one that was all over the network news and wire services?

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Re: Willard Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 12:20:20 2012, in response to Re: Willard Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 11 11:35:01 2012.

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That's better searching than I did.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 12:54:00 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 08:43:43 2012.

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He apologized for being a rowdy teenager, nothing else.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 12:54:28 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 08:47:50 2012.

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You're kidding, right?

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 12:58:44 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 09:12:46 2012.

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The family called it "factually inaccurate" and berated the author for using the guy as a pawn in a political grudge match. They have retained a lawyer.

Don't forget, the person the article used as it's main source claimed he never witnessed the incident and never even knew about it until last year, when someone at the WaPo called him and told him about it. This is concrete proof they had this hit piece sitting on a shelf, waiting for the right time to "activate it".

Mr. Horowitz better get a lawyer.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 11 13:02:15 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 12:58:44 2012.

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Which family? wILLARDS???LOL!!!

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:02:15 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 09:01:28 2012.

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The family of the alleged victim claims the article is "factually inaccurate". His sister claims to have never heard of such an incident until she read about it yesterday. The main source for the story is a man who admits he never saw it and never knew about it until last year, when the Washington Post called him about it.

Do you really want to go down this road? I remind you the people who defended the fake Rather memos and the "Weiner was hacked" story got their asses handed to them.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 13:04:46 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:02:15 2012.

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The storm has passed and it's done its job, which is to waste some of your time.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:13:28 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 13:04:46 2012.

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The initial storm has passed. Now we deal with the shitstorm of media malpractice.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 13:19:23 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:13:28 2012.

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And then the happy ending of Romney withdrawing his apology?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by AlM on Fri May 11 13:40:49 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 12:58:44 2012.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/us/politics/years-later-a-prep-school-bullying-case-snares-romney.html

Phillip Maxwell, a lawyer in Michigan, who participated in the episode, recalled it in an interview on Thursday. “It started out as ribbing, sort of a pointed ribbing about his hair, but it very quickly became an assault, and he was taken down to the ground, pinned,” Mr. Maxwell said. “It all happened very quickly — it was like a pack of dogs.”

Mr. Lauber is no longer alive, but several classmates confirmed the account. Others, in interviews on Thursday, said that they were surprised by the accusations, and that they had never known Mr. Romney to act in a vicious or cruel manner.


It happened. It's irrelevant. The Obama campaign would be fools to try to use it.


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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by AlM on Fri May 11 13:41:54 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:13:28 2012.

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There's no media malpractice. It's a useless story but it's not false unless a whole bunch of people with no axe to grind are lying.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 11 13:54:29 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 09:27:27 2012.

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Do we realy believe what you say anymore - - since you stated that "The Union square 4/5//L/N/Q/R station had no such vandalism, nor, IINM, did any of the Lower Manhattan stations.", when both parts of your statement were FALSE.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:55:21 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 13:40:49 2012.

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Um, no. First off, Maxwell is a Democrat who has gone on record as saying he's not going to vote for him.

Combine this with the fact that the "other" source for this story admits he didn't witness and didn't even know about it until the WaPo called him about it last year. When an alleged high-profile newspaper does something this egregious, it won't be ignored.

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Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:58:11 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 09:27:27 2012.

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If you hate bullies so much, tell your illustrious black president to leave Frank VanderSloot alone.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 13:58:34 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 11 13:54:29 2012.

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When I passed through that station on the way to the Rally, no such vandalism was evident. When was this photo taken?

BTW, while you are bashing me, you might want to rethink your statements--none of the lower Manhattan stations were "vandalized" beyond the application of a few stickers. That is a FACT.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 13:59:45 2012, in response to Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:58:11 2012.

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What about the eyewitness to Romney's school bullying, as reported yesterday by ABC-TV, Chris?

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 13:59:46 2012, in response to Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:58:11 2012.

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What about the eyewitness to Romney's school bullying, as reported yesterday by ABC-TV, Chris?

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:00:02 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 13:41:54 2012.

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The sources aren't lying, the WaPo is lying by claiming they said things they never said or meant. One's a confirmed, on the record supporter of Obama and the others said nothing close to what was portrayed in the article.

The author LIED. Made shit up.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:00:40 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 13:59:45 2012.

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What eyewitness?

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:00:53 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 13:59:46 2012.

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Link. Name. Now.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:02:43 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:00:40 2012.

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THIS one. Is he "making shit up" when he describes Romney's actions as "bullying supreme"?

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 11 14:03:43 2012, in response to Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:58:11 2012.

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Then the RWepublicans can do the same about George Soros and other contributors.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:04:19 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 11 13:54:29 2012.

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???

Reminder: I pointed out to you I didn't see the stickers either.



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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:05:21 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:00:53 2012.

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ABC-TV report. Phillip Maxwell, former classmate of Mitt Romney. Saw the whole thing happen, regrets not trying to stop it, calls Romney's behavior "supreme bullying".

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:05:47 2012, in response to Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:58:11 2012.

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How is this different from people investigating George Soros's life?



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Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 11 14:06:49 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 13:58:34 2012.

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When was this photo taken?

Your reading comprehension needs some improvement - - if you really read my post, I identified the location where the vandalism/hate message occured.

none of the lower Manhattan stations were "vandalized" beyond the application of a few stickers. That is a FACT.


Then how come NYPD ordered NYCT to shut down Broad and Fulton on the J from 7 PM onward? What was that reason for the lenghty "police investigation", and there was no confirmed 12-9 at Broad Street.



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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:08:44 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:02:43 2012.

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You are about 3 posts behind me. I have already shown Phillip Maxwell is a Democrat and an opponent of Romney.


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Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:10:17 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 11 14:06:49 2012.

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NYCT Tweeted on NYCTSubwayScoop the stations were closed due to "crowd conditions", NOT an "NYPD investigation". The stations may have been used as NYPD staging areas, which is common NYPD practice for large-scale demonstrations.

You stated the location of this supposed "vandalism", but NOT the time the photo was taken.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:11:51 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:08:44 2012.

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You expect me to believe a Breitbart smear job? Besides, ABC reports that Maxwell, an attorney, counts Romney among his friends.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:12:03 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:08:44 2012.

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The Washington Post never felt obligated to tell it's readers Maxwell was a Democrat who strongly opposes Romney because it would undermine the effect of the story.

Given that the only eyewitness who portrays the incident in the manner the WaPo article describes has zero credibility. Imagine if Rush Limbaugh came out and said he did coke with Obama in 1984 ...

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Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:14:03 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:12:03 2012.

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So, because Maxwell is a Democrat, he wasn't there to watch Ronmey's bullying? Please.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:15:38 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:11:51 2012.

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No, I expect you to believe the man's own words, as quoted in Automobile Magazine!

“’I'm a Democrat, so I won't vote for him,’ says Maxwell.

“‘He’s determined to claim the highest office in the land--to be the first Mormon to do it. He keeps that undercover because he doesn’t want to frighten people.’”




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Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:16:21 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:14:03 2012.

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He's the only one portraying said incident consistent with the WaPo's ominous tone. No one else even remembers it.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:17:14 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:05:47 2012.

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No Republican president ever used his powers to smear and intimidate Soros.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:17:44 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:15:38 2012.

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What does that quote have to do with Romney's behavior in high school?

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Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:19:48 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:16:21 2012.

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No one else even remembers it

You personally interviewed the entire class to determine this?

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 14:22:48 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:00:02 2012.

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I hope this is taking up a lot of time.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:25:45 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:17:44 2012.

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It puts into question the veracity of Maxwell's alleged eyewitness account, the ONLY one which makes the "prank" seem like an ominous attack and which is being challenged by others, particularly his family.

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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:26:54 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Fred G on Fri May 11 14:22:48 2012.

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Not really. Romney's up in the polls, there's enough time to engage in a little side battle like this before we get back to the issues.

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Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully

Posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:26:57 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:16:21 2012.

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There were other witnesses.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:27:38 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:17:14 2012.

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Neither has Obama used his powers to smear this guy.



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Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:29:35 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:26:57 2012.

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There are two, on the record. Maxwell and Stu White. White told ABC he wasn't there and had no knowledge of said incident until someone called him from the WaPo last year. There's no doubt something happened. My guess is that it was a typical "prank" the WaPo inflated into a homophobic attack over time.

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:29:52 2012, in response to Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by AlM on Fri May 11 14:27:38 2012.

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Did you read the article?

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Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 11 14:33:43 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was a High School Bully, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 11 14:10:17 2012.

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You stated the location of this supposed "vandalism", but NOT the time the photo was taken.


Tuesday night (May 1), around 10:30 PM.


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Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully

Posted by bingbong on Fri May 11 15:19:18 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney Was Never a High School Bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:26:54 2012.

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Which polls? The ones you want to believe., or the real ones, all of which show the President winning? (especially in the "swing"states....like all of them)

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Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 11 15:29:27 2012, in response to Re: Mitt Romney is a SUPREME bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 14:29:35 2012.

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There are two, on the record. Maxwell and Stu White.

Six: Maxwell, White, Matthew Friedmann, Thomas Buford, David Seed, and an unnamed source. Stu White was one of several former classmates approached by the Romney campaign to refute the story. He said he didn't witness it but has "long been bothered by it."

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Re: Barack Obama is a Presidential bully

Posted by dand124 on Fri May 11 15:32:10 2012, in response to Barack Obama is a Presidential bully, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 11 13:58:11 2012.

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you mean this guy?

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