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Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner

Posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 5 19:08:13 2012

(AP) The military is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

The U.S.-led coalition routinely reports each time an American or other foreign soldier is killed by an Afghan in uniform. But The Associated Press has learned it does not report insider attacks in which the Afghan wounds or misses his U.S. or allied target. It also doesn't report the wounding of troops who were attacked alongside those who were killed.

Such attacks reveal a level of mistrust and ill will between the U.S.-led coalition and its Afghan counterparts in an increasingly unpopular war. The U.S. and its military partners are working more closely with Afghan troops in preparation for handing off security responsibility to them by the end of 2014.


[for the ones that make it that long apparently]

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Posted by AlM on Sat May 5 22:02:56 2012, in response to Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 5 19:08:13 2012.

How is this specific to Obama?

By the way, the US military also did not accurately report deaths of soldiers at the hands of their fellow soldiers during the Vietnam War.


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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 6 03:23:56 2012, in response to Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 5 19:08:13 2012.

Obama kicked off his campaign today. Ohio and Virginia. Two purple states that will decided the election.

The candidates will spend a good amount of time in Ohio, Virgina, North Carolina and Florida. It's up to those four states.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 11:36:01 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 6 03:23:56 2012.

Romney has no path to victory.

Obama has no path to defeat.

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Posted by AlM on Mon May 7 12:54:05 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 11:36:01 2012.

???

All Romney has to do is carry FL, VA, and OH. That is neither guaranteed nor impossible.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 13:16:49 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by AlM on Mon May 7 12:54:05 2012.

Obama has a better shot at carrying TX, Georgia (plus NC, IN, MO, AZ) and other such States than Romney has at carrying VA, OH and FL combined.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 13:20:12 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by AlM on Mon May 7 12:54:05 2012.

LOL @ ???????????????

North Carolina is still in play. Whoever wins that state wins it by about 1% point.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 13:34:38 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 13:16:49 2012.

That is incorrect.

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Posted by AlM on Mon May 7 13:38:44 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 13:20:12 2012.

If Romney carries FL, VA, and OH he will also carry NC. If he loses either FL, VA, or OH it won't matter whether or not he carries NC.



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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 13:56:01 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 13:16:49 2012.

Insanity. Of all those states, Romney will win all but NC with ease (more than 5 percentage points). His margin of victory in NC will somewhat less than that, but he's still going to win. VA and OH will go whichever way the national trend blows, and Romney will win Florida somewhat handily.

Next time you want to talk trash, verify the numbers actually back it up first

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 13:58:33 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 13:34:38 2012.

It is, but statewide polling can be deceptive. Most "swing" states will trend whichever way the national mood goes (Ohio especially). Right now the numbers could be deceptive. In 2008, McCain was leading in OH, FL, NC and VA until the national mood swung towards Obama in mid October.

The real arbiter of this race will be the September Jobs report.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:02:41 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by AlM on Mon May 7 13:38:44 2012.

Obama won Florida by 3 points in 2008. That's pretty big. And after four years, the demographics favor him more.

So we'll consider Florida a blue state now. VA, OH, and NC are the states they GOP has to focus on. They probably wish they had booked their convention in Greensboro or Columbus.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:05:54 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 13:58:33 2012.

It was more than a mood swing that changed things for McCain in Florida. He lost by 3 points in Florida. It's the demographics. They favor Democrats. Huge black and Latino population growth in Florida.

North Carolina always had a large black population. Certain things happened there to drive blacks to vote, like the Rev Wright ads, Duke, and simply having a black candidate to vote for.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:09:46 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 13:20:12 2012.

That NC is still in play demonstrates that the GOP candidate has no path to victory.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 14:13:22 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:05:54 2012.

Check the 2010 race.GOP won big time. Romney will win Florida unless something happens to really shake things up. I don't see another financial collapse of the magnitude of Lehman Brothers on the horizon. Of the big 3 swing states, (FL, VA, OH) Florida is by far the most likely to go Romney.

I will make one prediction here which you can bookmark: all 3 of these states will be one by one candidate or the other. They will not be split up. They are national trend states which will go whichever campaign gains some autumn momentum.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:13:23 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:09:46 2012.

Why? NC has a huge black population and has seen it's Hispanic population grow about 1000% in the last 15 years.

Plus all the white libs in the Triangle.



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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:14:55 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 13:56:01 2012.

Those numbers just CONFIRMED my "trash talk"

Thank you very much.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:17:48 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:13:23 2012.

You really believe that if NC is in play, that Romney has a chance to win anywhere else that matters?

He can lose NC and somehow magically pull off winning PA, OH, VA, FL, MI, IO, WI, CO, NV, NM, etc?

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:18:20 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 14:13:22 2012.

Check? I voted. You forget I live in Florida.

The GOP victories in Florida were not impressive. Alex Sink is nothing and she barely lost. Only reason she lost is because of the Tea Party momentum at the time. Rubio? LOL. Only reason he shined so bright is because he wound up in a three-way. Had he gone one-on-one vs. Charlie Crist I don't know that he would have won. That was a fiasco.

Florida is the least likely to go Romney. You must think Florida is all Koran burning preachers and their flock. Not true. It's like being in NY in fact. Just warmer.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:18:22 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 14:13:22 2012.

Check? I voted. You forget I live in Florida.

The GOP victories in Florida were not impressive. Alex Sink is nothing and she barely lost. Only reason she lost is because of the Tea Party momentum at the time. Rubio? LOL. Only reason he shined so bright is because he wound up in a three-way. Had he gone one-on-one vs. Charlie Crist I don't know that he would have won. That was a fiasco.

Florida is the least likely to go Romney. You must think Florida is all Koran burning preachers and their flock. Not true. It's like being in NY in fact. Just warmer.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:20:18 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:17:48 2012.

Yes, he can win lose NC because of the minorities but win OH and possibly VA.

I don't think Florida is in play for the GOP. I think they thought it would be and booked Tampa for their convention and now regret it.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:30:33 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:20:18 2012.

Yes, he can win lose NC because of the minorities but win OH and possibly VA.

and how does this give him the Presidency?

He's fucked.

He's a throwaway candidate like Bob Dole was in '96.

The GOP Establishment chose him because he won't damage other downballot candidates like somebody from that collection of freaks and clowns passing for a major party's nominating process would have.


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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:33:23 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:30:33 2012.

Oh, I think Obama will the election. I just misunderstood you. I think Romney will lose NC but can see him winning Ohio and possibly Virginia.

Obama is not as big a deal as we was four years ago. But he does not have to be to win. America is changing. Changing in ways that will allow him to be less popular, but still win with no problem.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 14:37:24 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:18:20 2012.

You may live there. I paid attention to their politics.

Republicans won big in 2010. Margin of victory is not as relevant as number of races won. There simply aren't enough non-Cuban Latinos and black voters to carry the state for Florida this time.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:44:22 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:33:23 2012.

America is changing.

yes America is indeed changing.

Changing for the better thanks to the best President in the last 60 years.

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Posted by AlM on Mon May 7 14:48:42 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:02:41 2012.

So we'll consider Florida a blue state now.

Feel free. But then the election is over. There is no reasonable scenario in which Obama wins FL but loses the election.



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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:50:55 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 14:37:24 2012.

I paid attention to. I live it every day and see why the GOP is in big trouble.

There are enough minorities in Florida to guarantee Obama victory like they did in 2008. In fact, there are going to be more of them between 2008 and 2012.

Cubans over age 55 or 60 give a shit about Castro and voting GOP. The younger ones are minority-minded and vote Democrat. THIW.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:50:57 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by AlM on Mon May 7 14:48:42 2012.

Romney will put Rubio on the ticket and win Florida.

It will still do him no good.

OTOH, Rubio is smart and knows that failed GOP VP candidates are finished forever meaning that he may not accept to be his running mate.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:53:26 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:50:57 2012.

I don't think Rubio will be the VP slot. I think it will be Portman from Ohio.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:56:13 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 7 14:37:24 2012.

Dade County has a huge Cuban population. When was the last time the GOP won that county in a Presidential?

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Posted by AlM on Mon May 7 15:02:36 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:30:33 2012.

Why don't you see that it is perfectly possible for Romney to win FL, NC, VA, AND OH?



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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 15:06:05 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by AlM on Mon May 7 15:02:36 2012.

Romney could win Ohio, especially if Portman is his VP.

Florida is lost because of all the minorities and northerners and changing attitudes in general.

Obama won NC only because of the huge black turnout. If it's slightly lower in 2012 who knows what happens. It's going to be close.

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Posted by Train Dude on Mon May 7 15:54:11 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 14:14:55 2012.

If obama loses, put your head on the running rail on one of the metro-north tracks out of Grand Central and wait.....

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 19:46:25 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by AlM on Mon May 7 15:02:36 2012.

Because he's a partisan hack posting for effect.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 19:47:26 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 15:06:05 2012.

Obama doesn't have the spark he had in 2008. He won't get the huge turn out of Blacks, young people, etc that helped elect him in 2008. He also doesnt have the independents like he did in 2008.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 19:56:57 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 19:47:26 2012.

But there are more minorities able to vote in 2012 compared to 2008. And they have grown in numbers in FLA, NC, and other states vital to the GOP. Whiteness is being phased out in favor of multiculturalism.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 20:50:53 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 19:47:26 2012.

McCain wasn't damaged goods to American women the way Romney and the current GOP is.

Obama's margin among female voters will be even greater than in 2008 thanks to the GOP's War on Women.

His tally among Hispanics will also be greater than against the Hispanic-friendly, amnesty-loving McCain.

You don't understand American political dynamics and what makes people tick just like you never understood the Republican Establishment's criteria when nominating a President.

Also in 2008, war hero McCain could rightly hurl the accusation that then-Sen Obama was inexperienced in foreign and military policy.

Considering my President's success in that field, the tables are turned on the wimpy, draft-dodging, "we will not attack bin Laden in Pakistan" Etch-a-Sketcher.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 20:52:03 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 19:46:25 2012.

Because he's a partisan hack posting for effect.


I'm a registered Republican.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 20:53:24 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 20:50:53 2012.

There is no "war on women". That's a manufactured nonsense, by the left, because they have nothing else. They surely can't run on how great their guy has been, so resort to nonsense.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 20:55:31 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 7 14:53:26 2012.

I think it will be Portman from Ohio.


ahhh Bush's economic policy adviser.

yeah, that'll get him FL, VA, PA, CO, NV, NM, IO, WI and the female and Hispanic vote.

Yep....that'll clinch it for him.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 20:55:33 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 20:52:03 2012.

That's nice. Chris R27 and I were both registered Democrats.

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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 21:11:13 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 7 20:55:33 2012.

That's nice.

No it's not.
It's my personal shame.

Everybody has something to be ashamed of.
Mine is my party registration.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 8 05:43:10 2012, in response to Re: Obama covers up amount of attacks on troops from peace partner, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 7 21:11:13 2012.

Ohhh-kayy.

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