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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 11:22:34 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:40:39 2012.

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To speculate that he wouldn't have done it is as absurd as speculating that he would have.

there is no speculation.

Romney HIMSELF proclaimed that he wouldn't have done it.

Mr. Etch-a-Sketch must now live with those words.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 11:26:33 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 10:41:36 2012.

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Beside there being no active search between 2002-2009, Bush and Romney had said that if OBL were in Pakistan, they would not violate the sovereignty of our "ally" with an armed offensive incursion and called candidate Obama a maniac when he said that he would do otherwise.

THEY said it.

yet partisan hacks like you pretend otherwise.



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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 11:32:12 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 11:26:33 2012.

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And you also fail to acknowledge the change in leadership in Pakistan over time too. What was happening in 2006 was not the same as in 2008.
Regimes change.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 11:34:42 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 11:15:20 2012.

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Our relationship with Pakistan changed. What was going on in the mid 2000's was different than the environment there in 2008 with the new regime change.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 11:44:00 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 11:34:42 2012.

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No.

What changed was the regime in the United States of America.

We got a REAL leader who speaks slowly and carries a big stick instead of an idiotic ManBoy who did the opposite.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 11:45:52 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 11:34:42 2012.

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That's simply not true. We got a better President with some savvy as to what had been going on there all along. Neither Bush nor Romney were that better President.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:36:48 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 11:44:00 2012.

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No. Pakistan's regime also changed. They became less of an ally with that change.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:37:43 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 11:45:52 2012.

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False.
It is absolutely true that our relationship with Pakistan changed with that change in regime.


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Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:01:10 2012, in response to SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 20:41:22 2012.

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Very biased, and full of spin and BS talking points, but the message is the same: Americans won't tolerate the use of the OBL raid as a political football. Just like 9/11:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/will-resentful-navy-seals-swift-boat-obama

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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 13:09:53 2012, in response to Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:01:10 2012.

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LOL, more bullshit claims that the SEALS are going to mutiny over this.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 13:12:10 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:37:43 2012.

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I dunno, I asked google and it didn't answer like you do

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 1 13:34:31 2012, in response to Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 13:09:53 2012.

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That's right, they're not. Also consider the fact that this is a lot of talk around the anniversary of the event,and the disclosure to the public of some of the papers retrieved during the mission. It will blow over long before November.

Nor does it change the facts...we are far more secure thanks to the success of this mission. It's still open to speculation how the decision to proceed would have gone had someone else been tasked to do it. Remember, the republicans all but admitted they felt keeping Binladen around was in their interests, so they could feed Halliburton/KBR, et al more $$$$. Nothing like a war to keep the machinery of war highly profitable.

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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:37:10 2012, in response to Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 13:09:53 2012.

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They will (politically). They already have:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/Osama-bin-Laden-death-SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit.html

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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 13:41:23 2012, in response to Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:37:10 2012.

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That's the same story you posted yesterday. Some unamed source and a former SEAL who's a GOP politician.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 1 13:45:56 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 07:40:52 2012.

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Any sitting president would have done that once our CIA found him

And that's the key here. Would Romney have put in the effort to find bin Laden, or he would have diverted the effort to more "important" things like pornography? Note that our efforts to get bin Laden were renewed once Obama took office.



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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 1 13:53:57 2012, in response to Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by bingbong on Tue May 1 13:34:31 2012.

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Also...it is NOT in the nature of Navy SEALS to politicize ANYTHING. They are there to do their jobs, and those tasks remain classified long after they retire. So anyone bringing it up as apolitical issue or any variety of issue to begin with is suspect, IMO.

Once again, in case anyone didn't get it, there is NO WAY to convincingly argue that any republican would have done the same as the President did last year. Their rhetoric WRT Binladen has consistently been the opposite. It's only yesterday that their candidate spoke differently. That's tantamount to a deathbed conversion once dead. Way too late. Flip-FLOP.Thud.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 14:32:18 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 13:12:10 2012.

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????

Did you even read any of the links you posted?

Link One: Question: How might Pakistan’s civilian/military relations change following Musharraf’s
departure?
Frederic Grare: It’s quite difficult to tell right now.


Written in August 2008. Tells us NOTHING.

Link Two: HONOLULU (Aug. 22) – Pakistan can remain a key player in the battle against terrorism even with the departure of U.S. ally Pervez Musharraf if the global community – particularly America – has the patience to let that nation find its own way forward, East-West Center Senior Fellow Shabbir Cheema said this week.

Written August 2008. Tells us NOTHING, other than it will be "important to keep them as an ally".

Link Three: Talks about Israel and how it affects the area and relations. Tells us nothing about the topic at hand.

Link Four: which is being underplayed by the Musharraf administration. It is about time that resentment and anger of the Pakistani nation, is honestly and bluntly communicated to President Bush and his administration.

The article was written while BUSH was president and Musharraf was still, in power, thus prior to 2008. Tells us NOTHING again.

Link Five: JERUSALEM: Pakistan should be open to the idea of establishing relations with Israel in order to counter the "pro-India" stand usually adopted by it on key issues like Kashmir, former President Pervez Musharraf has said.

The article again is in reference to ISRAEL. Tells us nothing about the topic at hand again.

Link Six: 20-Aug.-2008 PAKISTAN: STRATEGIC CHALLENGES FOR UNITED STATES IN POST-MUSHARRAF PHASE

Written in August 2008. Tells us NOTHING about the topic at hand except the US will have challenges in the future post musharraf.

Link Seven: New envoy urges US to bail out PakistanBy Farah Stockman, Globe Staff | November 10, 2008

WASHINGTON - With Pakistan teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, Husain Haqqani put on a powder blue tie and made his pitch. A quick infusion of US cash, he said, would ensure that Pakistan will be able to afford to keep up its expensive military operations near the Afghan border.


Article written in Nov 2008 about how important money will be to pump into Pakistan. Bush was still president.

Link Eight: Talks about how Musharraf wanted a friendly government in Kabul, and talks about the US and Musharraf's agreement on how they would be able to use Pakistan to fight in Afghanistan. Again, this is completely through the agreements with Musharraf.

Link Nine: Talks about Musharraf's view on how the US-Pakistani relationships have eroded slowly since the Iron Curtain fell as the US slowly shifted more towards India.

Link Ten: Talks about post US Post-911 interests in South Asia.



I see not ONE article that has anything to do with the discussion. It appears you didn't read one link you posted in this list.










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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 14:36:07 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by 3-9 on Tue May 1 13:45:56 2012.

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The pornography nonsense is a complete fabrication thrown in by the left to create a diversion and an image.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 14:41:56 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 14:32:18 2012.

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LOL, I typed in "was there a change in us pakistan relations after musharraf?" and that was the result.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 14:48:38 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 14:41:56 2012.

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And you obviously didn't read one link you posted, none of which have anything to do with the topic, and most of which were written BEFORE Obama was even president.

Our relationship with Pakistan has been deteriorating ever since Musharraf left office. It's a different relationship than we had prior to 2008. This is not Obama's fault either, it's Pakistan itself that is deteriorating.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 14:53:50 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 14:48:38 2012.

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I posted the results of querying "was there a change in us pakistan relations after musharraf?".

Can't help it if nothing comes up to answer that. I know the Pakistanis were bent out of shape over our raid to get bin Laden and were none too pleased about our overtures to India but not enough to harbor al Qaeda.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 1 15:03:38 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 14:48:38 2012.

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Our relationship with Pakistan has been deteriorating since a then-new Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces starting bombing the shit out of their territory in early 2009 as he promised.

That's the only cause of the souring in relations.

Unlike his illegitimate predecessor (or Romney), my President puts the safety of America FIRST.

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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by italianstallion on Tue May 1 15:25:10 2012, in response to Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:01:10 2012.

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So you admit Bush politicized 9/11. That's progress.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 1 16:04:06 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 30 21:47:52 2012.

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Apartment #1BDI 8-)


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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 1 16:25:33 2012, in response to Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:37:10 2012.

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I like how they interviewed one who was a Republican state senator. Were they expecting him to praise Obama? LOL.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 18:44:53 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 12:36:48 2012.

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Yup. Musharraf out, Bhutto's widower in—and back to supporting the terrorists.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 18:46:49 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 30 22:01:59 2012.

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Heh. The Huffington Post started off as conservative, then turned liberal when Breitbart left. Suddenly, the radical libs paint Ariadne as a conservative again . . .

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 1 19:19:01 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 18:44:53 2012.

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You just cleared Obama with that sentence. :)

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Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 1 19:23:01 2012, in response to Re: Warning from Buzzfeed (Re: OBL raid), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 13:37:10 2012.

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Are you aware that doing so is an immediate dishonorable discharge? Military is NOT allowed to engage in politics ...

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 19:36:39 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 14:53:50 2012.

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US pakistan relations post musharraf

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 1 19:52:27 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 1 19:36:39 2012.

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The former president complaining about the current one. How surprising.

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Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign)

Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 2 09:42:38 2012, in response to Re: Arianna Huffington too (SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign), posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 18:46:49 2012.

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Um, disagreeing with someone doesn't always entail painting with a broad brush, unlike conservatives.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon May 7 20:25:36 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 22:27:08 2012.

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Back to your cave, Troll.

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Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon May 7 20:38:20 2012, in response to Re: SEALs angry at Obama using OBL assassination in campaign, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 30 21:57:42 2012.

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