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The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012

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Chains not individual stores, from the Fiscal Times

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 10:35:40 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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I do most of my Shopping now at the ShopRite up on Cental Park Ave better selection of Seltzer water and sales for them.

I do "venture" into the Pathmark Along Central Ave from time to time.

Cant even remember the last time i walked into a Stop and Shop...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 10:44:56 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 10:35:40 2012.

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... better selection of Seltzer water.


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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 10:48:27 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 10:44:56 2012.

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Beats getting drunk or high...

:P

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 10:58:37 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 10:48:27 2012.

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I cannot argue with the veracity which means truthfulness of your statement.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 23 11:12:47 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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Having multiple supermarkets nearby was always nice because it allows one to shop around for the best deals. Stop & Shop and Walmart had their place. Unfortunately, up here we have a much more narrow selection, meaning Walmart has become our primary grocer (with Shaws) being number two. I will say that I miss Shop Rite (can't argue with that kind of cheap). They are correct in that Stop & Shop was habitually expensive, but that was compensated for by scouting the deep discounts they sometimes offered.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 11:14:51 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Apr 23 10:58:37 2012.

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Im like 7 UP never have never will!

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:01:12 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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Awww, they're dissing Pathmark, even though they got a nice picture of it in front the Manhattan Bridge! Part of the problem is not enough cashiers, but also the language barrier, because a lot of Chinese people shop there, but not a lot of people speak Chinese. That can clog up express lines, for instance. Otherwise, I thought their food is pretty good. Not great, but pretty good.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:05:08 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:01:12 2012.

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Hehe, I didn't see any kind of smoking gun here or any major revelation showing any store as completely awful. If these 12 are the sucky ones then I guess overall we're in ok shape, grocery store-wise. I mean they can't all be Whole Foods :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:05:49 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 23 11:12:47 2012.

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They are correct in that Stop & Shop was habitually expensive, but that was compensated for by scouting the deep discounts they sometimes offered.

Isn't that usually the case? Most experienced shoppers rarely buy full price (at least I don't). I just play the waiting game until the price drops enough, then grab as much as I can!

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:10:01 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:05:08 2012.

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Considering that some really big chains made the "worst" list, it makes me curious as to what's on the best list (besides Whole Wallet...I mean Whole Paych...errr, Whole Foods 8-)).

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:11:51 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:10:01 2012.

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I run with Whole Paycheck lol. They're a whole different animal but the chains do copycat them sometimes.

I dunno, around here the big chains are all pretty much same. There are good and bad versions of each chain.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 23 13:25:23 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 10:35:40 2012.

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I do most of my Shopping now at the ShopRite up on Cental Park Ave

I bought kosher for Passover potato chips there.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:30:47 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:11:51 2012.

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I visited a Stop & Shop once but I didn't find anything terrible about it, it was about the same as Pathmark. I find that busy stores have a certain amount of messiness anyhow - a really clean and neat store looks good, but may also indicate low patronage.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:31:30 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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Written by snobs who shop at Whole Foods and rely on consumer complaints (which are often baseless) to make judgment.

That being said, Pathmark has declined alarmingly in recent years. Even the ones in nice neighborhoods are bad. Wal*Mart should not be on this list and Stop & Shop's only real problem is prices.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:34:17 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 23 11:12:47 2012.

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S&S is an occasional destination for me, usually during the holidays when they offer good deals on many items. We also do a lot at Wal Mart supercenters upstate. Pathmark fills in the gaps.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 23 13:44:09 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:34:17 2012.

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We also do a lot at Wal Mart supercenters upstate.

Why would you do your supermarket shopping upstate, especially considering that you don't drive or like to ride in cars?

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:46:52 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:31:30 2012.

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WalMart has broken into the grocery market in a big way tho.

I agree tho, the list contains no big exposes and just general suckiness over prices .

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:46:52 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:31:30 2012.

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That being said, Pathmark has declined alarmingly in recent years.

They keep cutting the staff. The one by the Manhattan Bridge, they have like 2, 3 cashiers in the evenings, which can get bad since it can get busy then and they depend on the semi-automated checkouts, which break down frequently. I haven't been to an A&P in a very long time, but I wonder if the same practices are being done in the parent stores.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:49:15 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:46:52 2012.

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Scratch that, I misunderstood your WalMart comment. I agree, they don't belong on the list as they're actually pretty good.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:56:49 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 23 13:46:52 2012.

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The one on Ozone Park turned into a shithole years ago, but the one in College Point has almost caught up to it. We do more and more at Walmart, whenever someone we know with a car is going upstate.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 23 14:08:32 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:56:49 2012.

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We do more and more at Walmart, whenever someone we know with a car is going upstate.

Why would you do your supermarket shopping upstate, especially considering that you don't drive or like to ride in cars?

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 14:24:32 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Railman718 on Mon Apr 23 10:35:40 2012.

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I finally validated that Shop Rite last week, it was a very nice store!

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:14:48 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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My friend was a doorman on 72 and 5th, NE corner, and the owners of Weis has an apartment in the building.

Stop N Shop ain't so bad, but their Union Turnpike location has little parking and there are sometimes fist fights in the parking lot.



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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Apr 23 15:24:44 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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My Pathmark is fine. Renovated a few years ago. Plenty of staff.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:25:52 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 23 13:56:49 2012.

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Do you go to Scatturo's? I love that place. Unfortunately they don't carry percolator discs like the C-Town on Jamaica Ave does. I need them when I visit NY.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 17:06:56 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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I agree with Pathmark being at or near the top. We don't have them out here, but I've been in them in the NYC area and they can be pretty dirty. Cleaner than they used to be but I think that most grocery stores are. Ralph's is our version of Pathmark but generally cleaner and more parking.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Apr 23 18:06:22 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 17:06:56 2012.

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Like most chains, it's very neighborhood dependent.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 18:25:59 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Easy on Mon Apr 23 17:06:56 2012.

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I haven't been in a Ralph's in over 10 years so I can't comment. I do like the idea of a store called ACME.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 18:35:01 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 23 13:44:09 2012.

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If he travels upstate for different reasons altogether he can include a W-M SuperCenter stop as part of it.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 18:36:06 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 18:35:01 2012.

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Why would anyone want to do that when we have Wegman's, Price Choppers and Hannafords up here? :)

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 19:12:56 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 18:36:06 2012.

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Not far enough upstate I guess.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 19:19:36 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Apr 23 15:24:44 2012.

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My Pathmark is fine. Renovated a few years ago.

Let me guess, Whitestone Expressway. :-)

It's actually a decent Pathmark, especially compared to my Pathmark in East Meadow, although it's a little dark in terms of the interior compared to the Levittown Pathmark...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 19:20:57 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 23 15:14:48 2012.

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but their Union Turnpike location has little parking

One could argue that's true for just about any shopping centre in Queens or anywhere within New York City...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 23 19:22:35 2012, in response to The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 10:16:26 2012.

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Almost all of them appear to be in the NE where some of our dirty posters are at.

I haven't been to any of them in over 10 years, except for Walmart which I disagree with. That completely depends on the exact store you go to. The prices aren't even uniform in them anymore.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 19:26:08 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 13:05:08 2012.

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If these 12 are the sucky ones then I guess overall we're in ok shape, grocery store-wise.

I suspect it's the difference between say, Publix and Stop & Shop, or Loblaws and A&P, and shopping in both respectively in suburbs of Atlanta or Ottawa have blown away what constitutes a "really nice" supermarket for me without being called "Whole Paycheck".

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 19:30:09 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 19:12:56 2012.

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They have Price Chopper and Hannaford as far south as Newburgh and Middletown. OTOH, they have Shop Rite as far north as New Paltz...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 19:44:10 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 19:12:56 2012.

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I keep forgetting ... to many, Yonkers is upstate. :)

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 19:52:26 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 23 11:12:47 2012.

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Stop & Shop and Walmart had their place.

It's interesting that you note that as the second closest Stop & Shop sits right next to a Wal-Mart with both stores complimenting each other.

Regardless, in terms of my shopping habits, I prefer Stop and Shop as it's clean and the products there tend to be fresh, while also being cheaper or relatively near Pathmark's prices, and it has the bonus of being close to home. Shop-Rite is becoming the second best since their sales are great, and the newly re-opened location is still in mint condition. Wal-Mart is our big box store of choice, but due to Target just simply being too far and too inconvenient to get to. And if we don't get it at those stores, we buy in bulk or BJs or go to "ethnic" supermarkets in Queens or in Baldwin.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 19:53:07 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 19:44:10 2012.

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However, the nearest Walmart north of The Bronx is a crappy "non supercenter" in downtown White Plains, where a car isn't even necessary to get to...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 19:55:55 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 18:25:59 2012.

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Acme markets are horribly overpriced and have diminished in recent years in terms of amount of store locations.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 19:58:37 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 23 19:26:08 2012.

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I prefer Kroger to Publix in places where they compete...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 19:58:52 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 19:55:55 2012.

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Plus their goods are faulty and cause users to fall off cliffs.

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 20:05:54 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 19:53:07 2012.

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They don't get any better up here either. Which is probably why the place is a tomb. :)

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 20:06:17 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 19:58:52 2012.

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That too... :-)

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 20:08:28 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 20:05:54 2012.

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Well, if you have Wegman's and Hannaford stores up there, that is stiff competition with Walmart Supercenters. I used to like Price Chopper, but even they have been going downhill in recent years in my opinion...

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 20:10:47 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Apr 23 20:08:28 2012.

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We're dying for a Wegman's around here ... they're out further west but rumors persist that we might eventually see one. So for now, it's Wife Chopper and Hammyfords. No SlopSites, no Stop and Cop around here tho'. :)

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 20:13:28 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 19:44:10 2012.

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Indeed...think Pawling!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 23 20:19:10 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 20:13:28 2012.

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I'll bet they speak French up there. :)

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Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 23 20:36:28 2012, in response to Re: The 12 Worst Supermarkets In America, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 23 19:58:52 2012.

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I just sent back some defective tunnel paint.

your pal,
Fred

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