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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 16:48:47 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:34:25 2012.

The last thing Cuba needs is the US bringing back its Mafia there.



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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:48:48 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 16:45:41 2012.

I think a regulated gambling operation could provide jobs and a good attraction to bring tourist $$'s to Cuba without making the place Fulgencia II.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 16 16:49:21 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 16:46:31 2012.

Yeah, Cubans are well aware of the kind of crap people have in other countries. And in any case, most Cubans have no interaction with and would continue to have no interaction with foreign tourists. The only thing that ending the embargo and opening up Cuba to tourism would do is vitiate the Castros' claims that America is evil and wants to keep Cuba down.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 16 16:49:57 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 16:48:47 2012.

There are plenty of legit gambling operations nowadays. It's not 1959 anymore.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 16:50:21 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:48:48 2012.


I think a regulated gambling operation could provide jobs and a good attraction to bring tourist $$'s to Cuba without making the place Fulgencia II.


That's something Cuba's current government should look into.

No American companies! No Miami Mafia!!

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:52:11 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 16:48:47 2012.

Adding to what Spider-Pig said, gambling is gonna return there anyway so may as well be proactive and design a clean operation.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 17:00:24 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:52:11 2012.

Once they liberalize, those countries run on grease.

There will be no such thing as a clean operation.
Those places are not Finland.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:02:56 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 17:00:24 2012.

We could just let teh Mashapequot Injuns run it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 17:05:19 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:02:56 2012.

I'm biased towards the Tigua tribe.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:11:35 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Mon Apr 16 17:05:19 2012.

Ann Tigua or Nor Tigua?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:27:12 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan on Mon Apr 16 12:58:18 2012.

One little catch on a lot of them ... the bodies are all shiny and cool looking, but pop the hood and many of them have old lawnmower engines and plenty of "not authentic" underneath. Creative repair work over all those years with whatever could be had.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:28:25 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 16 13:17:37 2012.

Communism sure seems to be doing far better economics than you righties though ... whyzat?

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:39:29 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:52:11 2012.

Shovel-ready, lads ... shovel-ready.


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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:48:00 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:39:29 2012.

Look at that, it's like the Pope's hat, must be Pontiff Poker.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:50:17 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:48:00 2012.

Yeah, after running for Prez, and being spurned, he wanted to run for higher office. :)

I can't tell whether it's supposed to be a coconut or a cigar. Ain't that one butt-ugly design though?

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:50:38 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:50:17 2012.

Whoop! Meant Pineapple ...

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:53:12 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:50:38 2012.

Oh, then it's the Noriega House!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:56:23 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 17:53:12 2012.

Has a nice ring to it.

... of water. :)

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:01:38 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 17:56:23 2012.

Whenever I heard "Panamanian Strongman" I pictured this:



your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 18:16:33 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:01:38 2012.

According to a book I read about Noriega a couple of years ago, it was his breath. :)

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 18:20:00 2012, in response to Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 15 17:44:02 2012.

Why stop at Latin America? If Canadian PM Harper, British PM Cameron, French PM Sarkozy, Mexican President Calderon, and maybe even Putin/Medeyev got involved and told the two sides to make up*, it would be worth something. The fact that the mutual allies of the US and Cuba sat on their hands for 5 decades before getting hard on the matter saddens me.

The hijacking of US foreign policy by about .001% of the population in regards to US/Cuba relations is one of the key reasons why I am against this country. A summit or forced dialogue is LONG overdue.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 18:27:35 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 18:20:00 2012.

I wouldn't count on Harper, the guy is almost as big a scumbag whoremaster as Romney.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 16 18:39:09 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 18:20:00 2012.

The fact that the mutual allies of the US and Cuba sat on their hands for 5 decades before getting hard on the matter saddens me

Having to take a breath saddens you.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 18:49:15 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 18:27:35 2012.

Harper ideally would be the person the US would need to get better.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 16 19:08:47 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 18:20:00 2012.

Oddly enough the only people against the Cuba embargo appear to be the people who know the least about it.

Why does the American embargo of Cuba mean anything? Cuba can't trade with the other 193 countries on earth? With those direct flights from Harpers Canada, UK's Cameron(several times daily I thought), Or Calederon's Mexico?

What are you trying to say, Mexico, Canada, and the UK are such failures there's nothing they can trade Cuba with, it has to be America?

What are you planning on trading with Cuba? A country where the government didn't approve giving out...not people buying, giving out...Microwaves until very recently. Or allowing people to have cell phones.

But guess what, they couldn't afford cell phones. AMERICANS had to buy it for them, even with the embargo. You can't buy much on 20 dollars a month. Which is 20x more than Obama's bro in Kenya gets.

So try again when you have a point.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 19:12:49 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 16 19:08:47 2012.

Everyone BUT Americans DO deal with Cuba. America will be locked out and China will dominate Central and South America as well as the Carribean thanks to our oil centric foreign policy and hate Castro fetish.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 19:13:17 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Apr 16 19:08:47 2012.

Shush Floridian. The embargo stays because it gives the Castros a crutch to stay in power.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 19:15:38 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 19:12:49 2012.

OBS is merely a Floridian. You know, the scum of the United States.

The Ozzie Guillen debacle prove that a) no pity should be held for Cuban exiles and b) they may be the last acceptable group where being biased against them is okay.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 19:17:26 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 19:15:38 2012.

I have some wonderful friends who live in Florida. They aren't all like Turd Blossom.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 20:34:24 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 18:16:33 2012.

No matter how powerful those guys get they still don't understand floss.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Charles G on Tue Apr 17 12:07:26 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 15 21:23:02 2012.

If the embargo is lifted, Cuban communism doesn't make it through the decade of the 2010s.

It isn't entirely clear that the embargo is cutting off Cuba from anything. The only country sanctioning Cuba is the U.S.

People from all over the rest of the world can (and do) vacation there, and even invest money in property there (though usually through a well-connected local).

Besides many in the US, the other Caribbean countries are the ones that don't want the US to normalize relations with Cuba. Looking at the miles and miles of beachfront in Cuba, one can only imagine what would happen to tourism to places like Jamaica.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 17 17:56:51 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 16 18:16:33 2012.

I thought it was his eardrums.



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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 17 17:59:09 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 17 17:56:51 2012.

Best band ever.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 17 18:01:21 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 17 17:56:51 2012.

God Bless Psy Ops and their J B Lansing speakers on trucks! :)

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 17 19:47:19 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 19:13:17 2012.

Well the embargo was supposed to be to get rid of him. If they use it as an excuse to demonize the USA so they can stay in power, I'm not sure about that, or it's effectiveness anyway.

But I do love our politicians reasons for lifting the embargo. It doesn't seem to be trade, as there's nothing to trade or money. It's about the outrageous taxes and fees on the airline tickets!

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 17 19:55:15 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 17 19:47:19 2012.

Well, we can always overwhelm their healthcare system, right . . . ?

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 17:35:53 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 15 19:57:40 2012.

Wait for Raul to kick the bucket, Fidel is to old and sick to take the Presidency again.

I suspect that China is getting away from Communism as their living standards increase, plus the old guard is dying off.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 17:38:42 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 17:35:53 2012.

WADL

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 17:40:58 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Apr 16 19:13:17 2012.

Fidel is to old and sick, if Raul kicks the bucket, he can't take over again, plus neither has any offspring who could succeed them.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 17:41:39 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 17:38:42 2012.

Stop channeling the Turtle.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 17:43:13 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 17:41:39 2012.

How am I and everyone else "channelling the turtle" when we accurately point out how wrong you frequently are?

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 22 17:50:41 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 17:43:13 2012.

O piggie, you loves da' turtle.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 18:31:16 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 17:41:39 2012.

Is that the excuse you use every time it's pointed out by someone that you are wrong?

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 18:35:46 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 18:31:16 2012.

Apparently.

It's sad.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 18:51:53 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Rockparkman on Sun Apr 22 17:50:41 2012.

I HATE the Turtle, I wish Larry would ban him forever along with the Spider-Pig.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 18:54:09 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 18:51:53 2012.

Why? Because you want to post bullshit with impunity? Learn to accept criticism.

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 18:59:39 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 18:51:53 2012.

????
What has Spider Pig done other than point out when you make false statements that you ignore when people call you out on them?

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 22 19:16:47 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 22 18:59:39 2012.

Thank you

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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 22 20:04:08 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 22 18:51:53 2012.



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Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Apr 22 20:15:18 2012, in response to Re: Latin America turns on Obama—suddenly demands embargo against Cuba be lifted, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Apr 16 19:17:26 2012.

Florida is the state that hates free speech, thinks being a centrist is being leftist, and sees murder as being legal. Nobody there is good.

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