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Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012 Unlike all the crap Jay Zee links to, this is verifiable fact. Zimmerman WAS injured in the mele with Martin. This is now beyond dispute:http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:25:03 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. Ummm ... we saw that. What we NEED to see is the medical report from the ambulance crew. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:27:39 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:25:03 2012. Why? The cops documented his injuries in an official report. If you are alleging they are lying, it is your side which needs to provide proof. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:31:07 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:27:39 2012. Heh. X-rays too? Sorry guy ... that report doesn't qualify as "documented" but I'll let you argue with Jayzee about that. Go back a couple of days here and save yourself the embarrassment. :) |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by JohnL on Fri Mar 30 20:32:20 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:27:39 2012. Where did “battered” come from? The police report states that Zimmerman was bleeding. More detail is necessary, which is why we want the EMS report. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Fri Mar 30 20:37:45 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:27:39 2012. The PIGS lied. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 20:38:17 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. Who cares? It makes no difference to the extent of any crime he may or may not have committed. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 30 20:48:05 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 20:38:17 2012. It matters a great deal. If Zimmermann can claim self-defense then he gets off or isn't charged. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 31 06:28:45 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. Among the "crap" I linked to on Trayvon, was this very police report, three days ago. It states bleeding, but not to what extent or type. Only the ACR from the medics can quantify that, and if there was any bleeding, it;s likely to have been minor. Zimmerman was almost certainly NOT injured to the extent and degree he claims. His lack of injuries in the police video (and the absence of signs of a struggle on Trayvon's body), strongly suggest Zimmerman's self-serving version opf events is a bald-faced pack of lies. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:12:18 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 30 20:38:17 2012. Of course it matters. It goes to motive. It goes to a claim of self-defense. It goes to the question of which was the aggressor, or whether it was a mutual fight. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:14:35 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:25:03 2012. With respect Selkoik, we don't NEED to see this, except for our voyeuristic entertainment on OT Chat. And neither we nor the media/advocate lynch mob is part of either the investigation or the jury, if there is one. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:17:53 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Rockparkman on Fri Mar 30 20:37:45 2012. Congrats, RPM, you are the only one that has gone to the heart of the lynch mob's case. The PIGS lied; the report was faked; the videotaped was altered; there is a coverup at the highest levels.The only thing we're missing is blaming Dubya, but he's no longer President, but we'll figure out a way to involve him, too. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 10:41:58 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:12:18 2012. It doesn't tell me if Zimmerman instigated anything though. He was hardly a weakling, however. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 10:42:41 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 30 20:48:05 2012. Did they examine Martin's clothes to see if it had signs of a struggle? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:43:56 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. LOL!That's part of the "crap" that Jayzee linked to... your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 10:45:00 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. Incomplete---it doesn't show about what was on Travyon's clothes or body---if there were signs of a struggle. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 31 10:48:01 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:12:18 2012. Read the Florida Stand Your Ground law. Zimmerman can claim self-defense even if he never got a scratch on him. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 31 10:54:46 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 31 10:48:01 2012. But not if Zimmerman was the aggressor. Even the authors of Florida's law have publicly stated that Zimmerman is not eligible for its protections. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Mar 31 12:18:31 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. The funeral director has said that there were no marks/injuries (except the gunshot wound) on Martin's body that would indicate he had been involved in a fight/struggle. |
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Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 31 12:23:45 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 30 20:25:03 2012. As I expected, the EMS crew that examined George Zimmerman found no serious injuries. The medics, called for Trayvon's gunshot wound, actually cancelled a second ambulance from coming to the scene, which would have been for Zimmerman. Their ACR, according to published reports, also shows no findings of serious injury to Zimmerman. An ACR must be filled out for every patient contact, even if the patient refuses transport to the hospital.Are the medics now part of the vast, left-wing conspiracy to make Zimmerman the aggressive, uninjured bad guy? |
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Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Mar 31 12:28:51 2012, in response to Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 31 12:23:45 2012. No "serious" injuries. Was he injured at all?If I'm getting beat on, I'm not waiting to judge the severity of my current injuries before attempting to defend myself. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 31 12:34:47 2012, in response to Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Mar 31 12:28:51 2012. Zimmerman's injuries, if any, weren't serious enough for the EMS crew to keep the second bus coming. That and the fact they let Zimmerman go with an RMA, strongly, strongly suggests, based on my own two decades of EMS experience, that whatever "injuries" Zimmerman may have had, were superficial at most, casting serious doubt (again) on Zimmerman's very self-serving version of events. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 31 13:56:37 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:27:39 2012. Cops don't have the medical training like EMS does. I would trust an EMS assessment of Zimmerman long before some note a cop made. Something like "suspect bleeding, called EMS" is all they need to know. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:16:20 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by WayneJay on Sat Mar 31 12:18:31 2012. Funeral directors aren't fight experts. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 14:23:41 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:16:20 2012. Nor are you, but a mortician has expertise at bodily marks and over the years has probably seen enough bodies that got involved in fights to render an opinion on the subject.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:24:26 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 14:23:41 2012. So what? That's completely irrelevant. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 14:25:51 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:24:26 2012. Expertise is irrelevant? do tell.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 31 14:27:50 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:24:26 2012. Not exactly. The mortician was probably the last person to see Trayvon Martin in situ, before makeup prior to the funeral. His observations are relevant, as they are trained to find such marks in order to disguise them for a wake. He himself stated as much. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:30:32 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 14:25:51 2012. What expertise? You already admitted that the fellow's expertise cannot mean he's an expert on fighting.Don't know about you, but I've seen lots of street fights where the "winner" (often the aggressor) had no wounds at all. "Not a mark on 'im" is not uncommon. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 14:51:43 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:30:32 2012. We're talking marks on a body and their source. We're also talking a person who takes a closer look at a body than some onlookers at a street fight.I think a person who's been a mortician for x amount of years is going to have some expertise at what causes marks on a body. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:19:05 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:14:35 2012. I would agree were it not for the fact that this has now become political with the usual suspects on both sides using it politically. Since the question is no longer why did a kid die but rather what happened to the shooter, then it's reasonable to ask for proff that his nose was broken and Trayvon wailed on his ass and thus deserved to die.That's why ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:21:34 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 09:17:53 2012. Maybe Cheney shot the kid ... there ya are! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:42:46 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 31 10:43:56 2012. Shhh ... republicans have to prove what a bunch of lowlives they are. Step back, have a seat and enjoy the show. :) |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 19:03:31 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 18:21:34 2012. At the direction of Halliburton. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 19:07:44 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:16:20 2012. But Breitbart, from beyond the grave, IS?Move along now ... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 19:17:04 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 19:03:31 2012. . . . who oddly enough is not in the news anymore. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 19:17:29 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 31 19:03:31 2012. Apparently not ... no Halliburgers were recovered from the scene. :) |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Mar 31 19:22:24 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 14:16:20 2012. They don't need to be "fight experts". However, given their occupation, they're in a good position to comment on whether a body has injuries that are consistent with being in a fight. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 31 19:24:00 2012, in response to Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:18:29 2012. This whole thread is absurd. If he was injured, it will eventually come out in a court of law. If not, that too will be revealed. But to debate with the extremists, selkock, seldouche and the rest is equivalent of trying to teach a pig to play tennis. In the end you'll be wasting your time and annoying the pigs. |
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Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 19:27:24 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 31 19:24:00 2012. You must be pretty pissed off then. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 31 19:28:43 2012, in response to Re: Police report: Zimmerman battered, bloodied, treated by paramedics, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 31 19:24:00 2012. The genuine examples of Sus scrofa usually calm down, though. |
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Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 19:34:16 2012, in response to Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 31 12:23:45 2012. The Daily News, if it has the audio, needs to release it unedited. |
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Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 19:35:43 2012, in response to Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 19:34:16 2012. Correction - it's there. |
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Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 19:38:51 2012, in response to Re: Sanford EMS Crew: Zimmerman NOT Seriously Injured At Shooting Scene, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 31 19:35:43 2012. Audio's better than none, but it's really the paperwork that will have the actual details ... |
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