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Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: "Destroy *all* the churches" on the Arabian peninsula |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 23:22:40 2012 Washington Post
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 23:59:01 2012, in response to Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: "Destroy *all* the churches" on the Arabian peninsula, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 23:22:40 2012. And yet, we insist upon keeping our dependency on their oil over there instead of alternative energy. Well then ... let's get over there and start knocking down some churches. Maybe it'll bring down the price of gas. :( |
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Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 01:24:40 2012, in response to Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: "Destroy *all* the churches" on the Arabian peninsula, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 23:22:40 2012. Reuters
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 24 01:29:33 2012, in response to Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 01:24:40 2012. And we still want to buy oil from them and pay them for our approval of all this instead of putting a global effort into alternative energy. :(Oh yeah ... that'd be "science" ... this is better. |
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Re: Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' on the Arabian peninsula |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 24 10:05:15 2012, in response to Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: "Destroy *all* the churches" on the Arabian peninsula, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 23:22:40 2012. Didn't even know they had any churches. Thought that was banned under international law. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:19:16 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 24 01:29:33 2012. Simply calling calling on "science" doesn't make usable energy happen. The current approach to alternative energy is simply to throw megabucks (actually gigabucks) at different schemes and HOPE that something good happens. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 24 10:23:46 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:19:16 2012. What's your understanding of the recent problems with alternative energy investment?your pal, Fred |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:38:49 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 24 10:23:46 2012. Well, pal Fred,My understanding is that the government is trying to pick winners the way a bettor with too much money picks horses: place plenty of bets with insufficient knowledge of the field and figure that one of them is bound to pay off. It might do well to study technological advance at the turn of the 20th century: there were a number of reasonably practical schemes for electric streetcars. The inventors and their backers took personal risks to try to be the one. There were running commercial lines with, for example, Van Depoele technology. But Sprague blew them all away. Much more recently we had the government specify that the SLRV was what everyone would have to buy if they wanted "public" funds. Good thing San Diego decided to go their own way and buy a proven technology. your pal, SLRT |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 24 11:13:57 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:38:49 2012. Corporations are the biggest welfare pigs out there with NO regulations, miniscule taxes and all the rights of people with NONE of the responsibilities. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 11:35:42 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 24 11:13:57 2012. Non-sequitar time on SubChat. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 24 11:41:40 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:38:49 2012. I hardly think that solar and wind energy is a new science tho.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 24 11:49:17 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 11:35:42 2012. Nazi. Corporations need TOUGH love. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 12:45:58 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 24 11:41:40 2012. I prefer this to revolutionize water transportation. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 24 13:17:42 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 12:45:58 2012. i bet you'd like to be the "duck";-) |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 13:20:20 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:19:16 2012. Simply calling on "science" doesn't make usable energy happenWon't make the terrorists go away either. |
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Re: Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' on the Arabian peninsula |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 13:21:33 2012, in response to Re: Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' on the Arabian peninsula, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 24 10:05:15 2012. "International law" can't eliminate over two billion Christians . . . |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Mar 24 13:32:26 2012, in response to Re: Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' on the Arabian peninsula, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 13:21:33 2012. One country at a time. More has been eliminated in the past 100 years than the few hundred before that. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Mar 24 15:31:07 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:19:16 2012. That's because it's been beset by entrenched interests from the left and the right. The left wants solar and wind because their impact is ostensibly zero, even though they do not have the reliability to supply peak demand, let alone provide base power. And of course both power generation arrangements definitely have an environmental impact. The right wants coal, biofuel, and natural gas, except that biofuel is not an energy source, coal isn't a transportation fuel unless you get into synthetic fuels, and natural gas is already an imported fuel source. You're not going to get a good solution to our energy needs when we have so many hands grasping for every red cent their congressman can procure for their constituents. Unfortunately the Bush-Cheney energy policy effectively removed the role of the free market from determining energy generation fuel sources and we got the mess we find ourselves in now.At this point I'm putting my stock in Thorium fueled Molten Salt Reactors. If a company like Flibe Energy can start churning out safe, clean liquid fueled reactors from a production line so they can be installed as 100 to 500MW units effectively replacing the distributed networks of gas turbines now in use then we'll stand a chance of avoiding a major energy crisis. A Thorium breeder reactor may run very hot, but it also runs at nearly atmospheric pressure, so there's little or no danger of radioactive gas release. And that heat allows for the use of extremely small, very efficient turbines in the generators as well as providing the ability to provide process heat to other things like synthetic fuel production and desalination. Here's hoping they reach criticality on their design for the US Army in 2015 so we can stand a chance of a commercial thorium plant by the 2020s. |
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Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 24 17:01:20 2012, in response to Re: Bishops respond (Grand Mufti of SA: ''Destroy *all* the churches'' in the Gulf), posted by SLRT on Sat Mar 24 10:19:16 2012. Ah well ... the oil party is already hard at work perfecting science ... I'm sure we'll have our flying cars soon ... |
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